After birth abortion?

[Amarok]

A fetus cannot ‘act’ in the colloquial sense of the word any more than a plant or a parasite can
, because it is not conscious. Only people can act on each other. 

I consider instinct action nor do i think conscience deliberation is needed to act .Thus the fetus or a ring worm   drawing on a persons  resources and living in there body against her will is a violation wither it by deliberation or instinct the result is the same and thus the women has the right to remove the violator from her body

 I agree with you that government forcing a woman to continue an unwanted pregnancy (justified or not) will cause her to feel violated, but that has nothing to do with the fetus itself. That is the result of the actions of grown adults.  

I agree with your first point but it goes beyond feels it is by any definition forced reproduction thus is equal to rape as far as i'm concerned . What i will disagree on is that it has nothing to do with the fetus because wither it wills it or not it's unwanted presence is a violation and she holds the right to remove it .

 The fetus is innocent.

That plays no role in this as i'm not arguing from guilt or innocence. Nor does it factor into rightness or the mothers right to remove it  or they act it doing against her will.


This is a blood sucking lamprey it's innocent of a willful act it's still violating me when it starts to drink my blood and i still have the right remove it from my arm even if it results in it's death .

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My sister was almost aborted when my mom found herself pregnant with her at 19 to a drug dealing, abusive boyfriend. 

That's very sad  but aside my point 

My sister had nothing to do with the circumstances she was put in. It wasn't her fault.

Nor am i saying it was 

 She didn't ask to be put in that situation.

Once again not what i'm arguing 

She was a completely innocent bystander to the crappy situation she was put in.

Once again not what i'm arguing 

 The notion that my sister was somehow an intruder who was violating my mother's body is absurd. 

No it's not as that what she was doing by simply being there if your mother did not want her there was a violation and she was within her rights to remove her .As tragic as they could be .

Thank God for my pro life aunt who took my mother in and was the only person who told her not to abort. She saved my sister's life.

Good as long as it was voluntary  and not forced by law then i have no issue with it .