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Intelligence is a Curse
RE: Intelligence is a Curse
(September 12, 2011 at 5:38 pm)ElDinero Wrote:
(September 11, 2011 at 11:53 pm)salty Wrote: You know I won't Rhythm. I believe the events in the bible happened. I accept it and I live by it.

You have already been asked about this, but avoided it. So I'll ask again: What about the archaeological evidence that disproves it?

Archeology, I'm not sure yet. I have evidence in a book called Evidence for Christianity by Josh McDowell. I've realized that all your demands for proof, with the comment that the crux of my life will be in tatters, you're not really up for giving my views a fighting chance, you just want me to give in and agree with you, but I won't. I believe in the testimony of the witnesses that wrote the new testament and I believe it melds perfectly with the old testament.

(September 12, 2011 at 2:55 pm)salty Wrote: Down this road lies opportunity, Rhythm. People refusing to hear what I'm saying doesn't effect my personal choices. I'm still actively pursuing God, reading the Bible, practicing Christian standards, worshipping and praying to God.

Quote:Which Christian standards are these? There are some Christians who want homosexuality to be illegal - is this a position you share? And that's the tip of the iceberg. What 'Christian standards' are depends on which Christian you ask. Rhythm has pointed out that in your beloved New Testament there's still plenty of evil, and is arguably more evil than the OT which you have managed to sweep under the carpet.

Christian standards refer to what I do with my time. I try to stay away from things that will draw me into the grind. I'm working to become a missionary.

Please cite some examples of the evil in the new testament vs the evil in the old testament. Are you talking about the book of Revelation?

Eventually you will need to make a choice concerning Christians, either you will trust each of us by our individual chracter as proven to you over time or you will decide how we are, with a sweeping generalization because you're prejudice. What do you know of me? Decide for yourself if I'm trustworthy, if I'm not, then don't believe me, but don't ask me questions that will lead to my religious views if you don't trust that my words are credible. I'm obviously the wrong person to speak to.

You know what the Bible teaches on sexual sin it's in Romans, it's in Leviticus, it's in the Gospels, it's all over the place. If the government makes it legal that doesn't stop it from being wrong. Slavery was legal for quite a while wasn't it?

Quote:As for what I find offensive about Christianity, can it really be that hard to imagine why people would find it offensive? Just for starters, how about: The common view among its adherents that they are deserving of greater rights than me, that their position is untouchable and I shouldn't even be allowed to insult their religious views, which of course are completely unfounded. The fact that it seeks to interfere in every aspect of everyone's life, including education, politics, health and law among other things.

It's probably easy for you to say something like this, but I'm black El Dinero and if Christianity didn't stand up politically and say that slavery was wrong I'd probably be tied up behind someone's shed like an animal. No Christians that I know have interfered in people lives the way that you're saying, there are plenty of religious beliefs that are expressed on our streets and in institutions. The idea that Christians are saying they're "better" than you is just your own resentment speaking, you seem to be offended by the confidence we have in Christ, but you can have that confidence too.

El Dinero, from what I've learned in this post, you're just angry. I'm guessing someone mistreated you or someone you love and now all Christians have to pay, even this "made up" God of mine has mercy, why don't you?
(September 16, 2011 at 6:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You bought this book? You were con'd. Again. Genesis, The Flood, and Exodus are not articles of faith for me Salty. They would be history, except that none of it actually happened. You're going to have to let go of the idea that atheists are people who simply refuse to accept the evidence. There is none, and that is why christianity is a faith. If the evidence were so clear, why is it that you can't seem to produce any? Is this something you've ever considered?

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/g...jesus.html

You're right, so far I haven't provided any proof of the flood, creation or exodus, could be because I'm on chapter three of the book?

Rhythm, Christianity is lived through faith, even if someone gave solid evidence that God sent the flood and it covered the whole earth, do you think when someone is in emotional turmoil or choosing their next big step they look up the evidence of the flood to help them get closer to God? Evidence is something to settle the mind, not the spirit. No one asks for the calculations or the scientific chances that the earth is young or if it's old when they're attending a funeral.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
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Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 10, 2011 at 6:19 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 10, 2011 at 6:34 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by padraic - September 10, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 7:43 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by MilesTailsPrower - September 10, 2011 at 10:23 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by thesummerqueen - September 10, 2011 at 8:39 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 8:40 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Faith No More - September 10, 2011 at 10:11 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 10, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by MilesTailsPrower - September 10, 2011 at 10:37 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Faith No More - September 10, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 11, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 11, 2011 at 3:18 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by KichigaiNeko - September 11, 2011 at 7:35 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Faith No More - September 11, 2011 at 1:07 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 11, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Watchman - September 11, 2011 at 6:47 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Justtristo - September 11, 2011 at 7:29 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 11, 2011 at 8:43 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 11, 2011 at 9:51 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by KichigaiNeko - September 11, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 11, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by thesummerqueen - September 11, 2011 at 12:22 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by thesummerqueen - September 11, 2011 at 10:27 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 11, 2011 at 6:15 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 11, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by thesummerqueen - September 11, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by searchingforanswers - September 11, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by thesummerqueen - September 11, 2011 at 12:55 pm
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by thesummerqueen - September 11, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2011 at 1:03 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by bozo - September 11, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 11, 2011 at 7:19 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 11, 2011 at 11:53 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 12, 2011 at 1:22 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 12, 2011 at 6:54 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 12:15 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 4:37 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 12, 2011 at 6:23 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 13, 2011 at 11:58 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by frankiej - September 13, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by padraic - September 12, 2011 at 2:51 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 12, 2011 at 11:36 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Justtristo - September 13, 2011 at 7:37 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by KichigaiNeko - September 13, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 13, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Justtristo - September 13, 2011 at 7:33 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 1:54 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by bozo - September 12, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 3:41 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 4:58 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 12, 2011 at 3:45 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by searchingforanswers - September 12, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 5:08 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Faith No More - September 12, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 5:26 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 12, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 5:39 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 5:37 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 12, 2011 at 5:38 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 16, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Ace Otana - September 12, 2011 at 5:38 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 5:41 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 12, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 12, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 13, 2011 at 12:35 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 13, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 14, 2011 at 3:41 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 14, 2011 at 8:40 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Justtristo - September 13, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 12, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by padraic - September 12, 2011 at 7:15 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 7:17 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 12, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 12, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 12, 2011 at 9:17 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 12, 2011 at 11:46 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by KichigaiNeko - September 13, 2011 at 7:35 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by searchingforanswers - September 13, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Justtristo - September 13, 2011 at 8:30 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by searchingforanswers - September 13, 2011 at 9:26 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 13, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 14, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Faith No More - September 14, 2011 at 3:26 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Faith No More - September 13, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by padraic - September 13, 2011 at 8:09 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 14, 2011 at 3:19 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 14, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 14, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Jackalope - September 14, 2011 at 6:25 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 13, 2011 at 8:31 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Minimalist - September 13, 2011 at 9:18 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 13, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 13, 2011 at 10:42 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Justtristo - September 13, 2011 at 11:57 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 14, 2011 at 3:35 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 14, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by bozo - September 14, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by frankiej - September 14, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by padraic - September 14, 2011 at 10:08 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2011 at 8:46 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Ryft - September 15, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 15, 2011 at 4:36 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 15, 2011 at 10:31 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 15, 2011 at 1:17 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Faith No More - September 15, 2011 at 4:00 am
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2011 at 8:10 am
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 15, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Ryft - September 15, 2011 at 11:14 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 16, 2011 at 12:35 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 1:53 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 16, 2011 at 3:08 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by tackattack - September 16, 2011 at 6:14 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 16, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Zen Badger - September 16, 2011 at 9:07 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Justtristo - September 17, 2011 at 1:25 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 16, 2011 at 3:18 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 16, 2011 at 8:40 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by salty - September 16, 2011 at 5:58 pm
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by padraic - September 16, 2011 at 11:12 pm
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by padraic - September 16, 2011 at 11:40 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2011 at 3:26 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2011 at 9:28 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2011 at 1:51 pm
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2011 at 5:24 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 5:26 pm
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2011 at 5:46 pm
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2011 at 8:05 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by R-e-n-n-a-t - September 17, 2011 at 8:07 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2011 at 9:15 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2011 at 6:53 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 17, 2011 at 11:29 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Ryft - September 17, 2011 at 11:42 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 19, 2011 at 4:36 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2011 at 10:27 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2011 at 12:23 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2011 at 3:43 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2011 at 5:26 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Moonbeam - September 18, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by thesummerqueen - September 18, 2011 at 8:03 pm
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Ryft - September 19, 2011 at 3:44 am
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RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Erinome - September 19, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 10:44 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2011 at 10:45 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 10:57 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by leo-rcc - September 26, 2011 at 11:06 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2011 at 10:58 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by frankiej - September 26, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2011 at 11:04 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by frankiej - September 26, 2011 at 11:05 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by ElDinero - September 26, 2011 at 11:09 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2011 at 11:10 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 11:10 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by leo-rcc - September 26, 2011 at 11:12 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Stucky - September 26, 2011 at 11:33 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2011 at 11:12 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2011 at 11:38 am
RE: Intelligence is a Curse - by Cinjin - September 26, 2011 at 11:52 am
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