I don't just mean my non-existence, I mean *any* non-existence. There has never been any such thing as nothing. Something can't come from nothing, therefore, if there ever was nothing, there couldn't be something. So existence is eternal.
To your probability argument..if you have enough time (billions and billions of years), and enough different Universes in your worldview, you can make life seem normal or even probable. That's just your narrative, though. Life isn't normal. There is nothing normal about anything that is going on..life is exactly the most improbable thing ever conceived..there are no odds to quantify it, because it doesn't just happen. Universes don't form by themselves (come on..this is elementry), and people don't develop out of goo, and glorified random apes is a fairytale that helps sinners go to sleep at night.
To your probability argument..if you have enough time (billions and billions of years), and enough different Universes in your worldview, you can make life seem normal or even probable. That's just your narrative, though. Life isn't normal. There is nothing normal about anything that is going on..life is exactly the most improbable thing ever conceived..there are no odds to quantify it, because it doesn't just happen. Universes don't form by themselves (come on..this is elementry), and people don't develop out of goo, and glorified random apes is a fairytale that helps sinners go to sleep at night.
(September 17, 2011 at 11:47 pm)IATIA Wrote:(October 12, 2010 at 5:58 pm)R-e-n-n-a-t Wrote: Being conscious individually, as I assume everyone else is, the question comes to mind; why do I exist from a 1st person point of view? Obviously I couldn't exist from a 3rd person POV, but when I die it'll seem to me as if the world ends; MY world will end. How can I explain this... When you sleep without dreaming everything is nonremembered, and seems 'black'. If death is the same, then it'll be lights out for eternity, and therefore I'm wondering why I'm conscious to begin with. Why me? Why here? Why now? Why at all? etc.
Any answers or ideas? I've asked my friends and family, but they don't really grasp the concept of the question.
I am glad you did not ask one of the hard questions. I have yet to read any of the responses here yet, but I am sure the theists have all the answers.
I have wondered on those same questions myself. Who knows how many universes there are. We just happen to be in one that evolved consciousness. In true nihilistic form, my answer is simply "Because it is. It could be nothing else or we would not be here and soon we will not.". The fear of this is what drives theists to their gods, but in the end, there is no payback, no reward, no heaven, no hell. Just Oblivion.
(September 16, 2011 at 10:08 pm)lucent Wrote: We can't imagine anything else because there isn't any such thing as non-existence..we're all eternal, the only question is where you'll spend eternity.
Of course "non-existence" exists. Where were you for eons before now? Tell me about that time. Myself, I did not exist and when this body passes, I will pass again into "non-existence" for all eternity and so will you. So, quit wasting your life on a 'fairy tale' and kick back and enjoy this short time for all that is worth.
