RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 10:45 am
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 10:48 am by Simon Moon.)
(August 21, 2018 at 11:41 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(August 21, 2018 at 5:51 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Not getting our morals from someone who claims to be a moral authority. But asking this about atheists is a category error, as they same question would be if asked of theists (you'll get different answers depending on what god they believe in). On this forum, most of the atheists are humanists, who use their brains to figure out what is most moral based on what has the best outcome for human thriving.*emphasis mine*
Really?
on this forum:
Some atheists were defending a gay man buggering an under age boy.
And that would be immoral, no matter how many people defended it.
Wasn't Mary 14 when she married Joseph? Yes she was. It was common practice in the 1st century for young girls to be married to older men.
Was it moral back then for older men to marry 14 year olds?
Quote:Another atheist has stated there 5 people she'd like to kill if she knew she could get away with it.
Immoral if she actually went through with it. But thankfully, thought crimes are not immoral.
Your moral authority punishes people, FOR ETERNITY, for thought crimes. Talk about immoral...
Quote:Another atheist claimed if he lived back in the day, he'd happily participate in chattel slavery.
And that would have been immoral.
Your god condones it, so you got that going for your moral authority.
As for me, I believe there was never a time when slavery could be justified as moral. Christians have to perform some pretty impressive mental gymnastics in order to justify slavery in the Bible.
Quote:(I assume you disagree with the above?)
Clearly examples of why an individual's brain isn't capable of deciding what's moral.
So again, what is an atheists moral authority?
I already explained where I get mine.
(August 21, 2018 at 6:03 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yeah.
The thing is, if you look at all the countries in the world with: the lowest crime rates, best health care, lowest infant mortality, lowest poverty rates, highest percentage of upward mobility, highest education rates, most freedoms, etc, they almost all correlate to the countries with the highest percentage of atheist populations.
Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Netherlands, and to a slightly lesser extent, Japan, France all have majority atheist populations.
Quote:*emphasis mine*
Not true
Also I take it you agree with colonialism?
No, I do not agree with colonialism.
What's your point?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.