(August 28, 2018 at 9:52 am)Kit Wrote:(August 28, 2018 at 9:50 am)robvalue Wrote: What constitutes concrete, in your estimation?
Something that doesn't resemble word salad. Sorry, but even we atheists are not free from it's green grasp.
What I want is an example: concrete means providing a proper example.
I think what Rob was getting at is that we are limited in our perceptive abilities. For instance, if there lay a garden outside your window, you could simply look outside and know what was there. But what if you didn't have a window? What if you could only peer through a tiny hole in the wall and observe a patch of green? Could you ever figure out that a garden was on the other side of the wall? Maybe it's a forest... maybe something else... after all, a patch of green doesn't tell you much.
That adequately describes our predicament as knowledge-seeking beings. With time and effort, we can perhaps learn that there is an assortment of different plants on the other side of a wall. But so much else is hidden.
Our capacity to know is finite. Can we ever discover the ultimate nature of the universe/reality? Probably not. We may never come to know a great many things. In some cases, such knowledge may simply be impossible.