RE: Ontological Disproof of God
August 28, 2018 at 12:42 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2018 at 12:50 pm by negatio.)
(August 20, 2018 at 9:21 pm)Astreja Wrote:(August 20, 2018 at 6:22 pm)negatio Wrote: Astreja No, only just when our entire American/World legal system is predicated upon the model of an exhalted [sic] high placed jurist passing judgement upon others via an ontologically nonsensical language of law.What are you on about? One does not need a god, or even a god-myth, to have a functional legal code.
(August 20, 2018 at 9:16 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Of course, I can't help appreciate the irony of someone who claims they're too intelligent to clarify and condense what they mean in the same breath as patting themselves for how much studying they've done themselves.
Why tart up one's language to make it smugly incomprehensible, unless the underlying ideas are pure bollocks and the author wants it to be incomprehensible to hide that fatal flaw?
(August 28, 2018 at 12:09 pm)negatio Wrote:How does one go about disproving an alleged god, anyway? At most one can point out the ludicrously inconsistent traits and behaviours of the Abrahamic deity, and reason that it's not a particularly good role model for setting up a justice system.(August 20, 2018 at 9:21 pm)Astreja Wrote: What are you on about? One does not need a god, or even a god-myth, to have a functional legal code.
Godmamn, Astreja, that last was so radically beautifully written, an so right-on. Let me study it for a while, and, after I finish my Disney movie, I promise to get back to you. Thanks. Negatio
Why tart up one's language to make it smugly incomprehensible, unless the underlying ideas are pure bollocks and the author wants it to be incomprehensible to hide that fatal flaw?
(August 28, 2018 at 11:04 am)Astreja Wrote: How does one go about disproving an alleged god, anyway? At most one can point out the ludicrously inconsistent traits and behaviours of the Abrahamic deity, and reason that it's not a particularly good role model for setting up a justice system.
At that point you can discard that particular deity, whether or not it actually exists, and focus on the underlying issue: Individuals' desire for justice, grounded in our personal experiences of things that we ourselves deem unjust. Gods just serve a ceremonial role in the process, anyway; it's people who make the actual decisions and implement them.
At that point you can discard that particular deity, whether or not it actually exists, and focus on the underlying issue: Individuals' desire for justice, grounded in our personal experiences of things that we ourselves deem unjust. Gods just serve a ceremonial role in the process, anyway; it's people who make the actual decisions and implement them.
Holy cow, Astreja, that is some totally right-on and righteous thinking on your part, of course, its all actually people totalizing absolutely everything. Of course, precisely, needing "Justice" via that which is deemed unjust, wow, of course, perceived lack justice, as justice is viewed in its ideality from the purely gut level of what we human beings ontologically sense interacting justly with our fellow humans is, determined by an objective/seen/perceived lack of what, in future, justice can become as strictly a function of individual humans acting justly among themselves, and not doing so via "legal" means, rather, by each persons pretty much natural, ontological feeling for justice. Law is not the mediator between persons, our basic original feeling/desire for justice is our viable path to each person reciprocally treating all others justly, without fucking "law", which "law" is, as it is now structured, an impediment to doing interpersonal justice purely on the basis of our fundamental sense of conducting one' self nobly among others. Yes, wow, Astreja, here you are enunciating the human ontological feel for righteous conduct which does not require God, or, Law, to reign... Thank you. Negatio. I live way rurally and product my electricity at the cost of eighty cents per hour, I am nearly out of fuel, it is the end of the month, money is slimming until I get my Veteran's and Social Security retirements on the 31st, so, I will have to entirely stop having the total blast of interacting with you guys, except, only very very intermittently to see responses, without being able to respond until later....Negatio.
