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Back to the beginning: the cave
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RE: Back to the beginning: the cave
(August 30, 2018 at 3:03 am)bennyboy Wrote: I think the idea is that through total surrender of the self, one comes into contact with all of existence in some way.

One way I've heard it described is that all the stuff we sense is a painting-- but under it lies the canvas.

Many religions have neat sounding ideas. Having neat sounding ideas is hardly remarkable if those neat sounding ideas don't correspond with reality. In Buddhism there is the concept of Makyo, being an illusion or attachment one encounters during meditation. How do you determine whether a meditative experience is makyo or not? Well you appeal to the ideas of those more experienced than you. And where did they get their ideas from? Other, supposedly more experienced teachers. And so a chain exists between the present and teachers long ago who were, at best, making guesses about the nature of their meditational experience. Meditation preceded Buddha and his interpretation of it. It was an ascetic practice long before the Buddhists adopted it. All they have done is overlay it with their dogma about reality, which is, not surprisingly, very similar to the orthodox Hindu beliefs that existed in the culture at the time. Buddhist doctrine about meditation is invention, not truth.
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Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 9:02 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by purplepurpose - August 28, 2018 at 9:06 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 9:14 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 28, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 9:43 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by bennyboy - August 29, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 30, 2018 at 1:58 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 28, 2018 at 9:46 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 9:47 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 28, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by vulcanlogician - August 28, 2018 at 10:08 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by vulcanlogician - August 29, 2018 at 10:11 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Whateverist - August 29, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 28, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 9:58 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Aroura - August 28, 2018 at 9:58 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 28, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 10:31 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by purplepurpose - August 28, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Silver - August 28, 2018 at 10:42 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Angrboda - August 28, 2018 at 12:32 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 28, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2018 at 10:57 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 29, 2018 at 1:33 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Aroura - August 29, 2018 at 2:14 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 29, 2018 at 2:46 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by ignoramus - August 29, 2018 at 3:35 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2018 at 6:16 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by bennyboy - August 29, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2018 at 7:26 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by vulcanlogician - August 29, 2018 at 7:58 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Aegon - August 30, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by brewer - August 29, 2018 at 8:11 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by bennyboy - August 30, 2018 at 3:03 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by Angrboda - August 30, 2018 at 7:54 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by robvalue - August 30, 2018 at 8:49 am
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by bennyboy - August 30, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Back to the beginning: the cave - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2018 at 5:55 pm

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