RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 11:03 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2018 at 11:04 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(August 30, 2018 at 10:53 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 30, 2018 at 10:50 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I can't really say this has been the most productive debate. If you are using numbers of adherents to a belief system to qualify it as delusional, then atheists are delusional.
If adherence to what is plausibly real is your metric, theists are.
What one finds plausible is highly subjective. Personally I don’t think you are going to get anywhere by just calling a large group of people delusional, and that you need to support your claim with more than personal opinions.
But I didn't, RR. I don't even know who brought the word delusional into it. Then the discussion devolved into delusion being defined as a matter of public opinion. Then Alpha Male came in and said that he stands united with the Muslims and Hindus (for a moment) in order to prove a point that theism isn't a delusion, and I then got annoyed.
Let me put it this way. If theists are wrong, and there is no God up there listening to their prayers, giving them a good parking spot at Walmart, and driving grandma's cancer into remission, then one can safely say that theists are experiencing some sort of delusion.