RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 9:40 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2018 at 9:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I doubt that spinoza (or anyone else) would classify it as theism if it were contemporary rather than historical (in that sense his critics were right). In any case, divorced from it's association with gods it does seem trivially true, if true.
The universe exists, the qualities and properties of things in the universe are, ultimately, properties of the universe. It's akin to saying;
"Here's a rock, rocks exist, hardness is a property of rocks" - if rocks, ofc, were metaphysicaly ultimate - the header to which all subsets belong.
The only thing I, personally, find irksome about pantheism..is the tendency of a pantheist (or person playing devils advocate) to use pantheism to walk back ludicrous god claims..and from that point of seeming rationality (or comparative rationality), begin to reattach the godly baggage. I tell them that yes, I agree that the universe exists, and I also know that it's not a god.
The universe exists, the qualities and properties of things in the universe are, ultimately, properties of the universe. It's akin to saying;
"Here's a rock, rocks exist, hardness is a property of rocks" - if rocks, ofc, were metaphysicaly ultimate - the header to which all subsets belong.
The only thing I, personally, find irksome about pantheism..is the tendency of a pantheist (or person playing devils advocate) to use pantheism to walk back ludicrous god claims..and from that point of seeming rationality (or comparative rationality), begin to reattach the godly baggage. I tell them that yes, I agree that the universe exists, and I also know that it's not a god.
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