RE: Ontological Disproof of God
September 9, 2018 at 12:40 am
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2018 at 1:10 am by negatio.)
(September 8, 2018 at 9:27 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(September 8, 2018 at 9:04 pm)negatio Wrote: I have made my disproof understandable to others, because the language wherein the disproof is cast is per se intelligible. It will not be intelligible to all Others, for, all Others are not energetic enough, and, toughminded enough to apprehend what is, in fact, intelligible.
My central task is to posit an intelligible language, not subject to future defeat; my responsibility is not, cannot possibly be, to reduce my language to being intelligible to every non-toughminded weakling.
If I eject/toss-away the authentic difficulty which is attendant upon my position, I subject my position to being killed by Other intellect. If I make my position readily available to everyman, to every non-toughminded person, to weaklings, I thereby compromise the indefeasibility of my argument, by diluting the inherent defensive structure contained therein. Negatio.
Maybe, then, you are too wise to be a philosopher. It happens sometimes. People gain so much knowledge that they can't relate to those who seek knowledge, and love knowledge.
Plato Wrote:Isn't it obvious by now, Socrates, that those who love wisdom are not wise nor ignorant but the ones in between, like Love himself. In addition, the young god Love loves wisdom because wisdom and knowledge are the most beautiful things we know of, and Love is always drawn to beauty. It follows that love must be a lover of wisdom and that all lovers of wisdom, that is, philosophers, like Love himself, are somewhere in between total ignorance and complete omniscience.
I spoke to a member earlier regarding the question of my being a philosopher, and, I informed the member that, at best, I am merely an ideaologist. As vain and fucking great as fucking Duane may be, he is not, and, will not be so presumptuous as to declare himself a philosopher! I am not a fucking philosopher, merely one who studies and engages what, in the world, is called "philosophy". Wow, Vulc what a beautiful thing to say to me, and, what a beautiful quote from Plato, I had not seen that before, far out! If I am too wise to be a mere philosopher, it might be that I am wise enough to be one of Plato's philosopher kings! and, thereby lead the world into a totally fresh and new understanding of what we human beings are, and, I am convinced, it is via employing understanding of what we are, and by using ourselves as pattern, we could live an ontological civilization which is structured consistently with what we are, instead, of what we are doing now, by continually railing against what we are via both religion and law, and, instead, engage and embrace what we are, and have the fucking guts to be the absolutely horridly scary fucking goddamn thing that we are, and, I believe that if and when we can, all, together, become reflectively free, we will dissolve the majority of the problems transpiring within our sociosphere. I suggest we quit thinking of ourselves as sinners, as criminals, for we are none of those...we are absolutely free, and, I think the very best thing to do is to let freedom reign, for, by taking/gaining a reflective understanding of what our absolute freedom is, we will become, as well, equipped to live in civil/civilized fashion, among ourselves, without law, or, with a compromised form of law, which we will arrive at only be engaging in a dialogical dialectic with law, which Platonic dialogical dialectic is means to knowledge, to truth. History proceeds dialectically, and, thereby we can reach a point in history where we can actually reflectively control our history, thereby calculatedly obviating cultural problems like what we have now, which we call crime. Crime is a man made construct...we humans can learn to live absolutely freely together, for we are structured by whatever force(s) which did make us, to control each others potential misconduct; however, any rotten motherfucker who wants to do horrid shit which no one whomsoever will countenance, let that mother fucker watch out for what we are capable of doing to his ass, even, or even especially within a civilization without law, and, with only our own ontological structure as the modulator, interpersonally, of our conduct. Negatio.