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Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(September 9, 2018 at 7:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: You aren't really against the tactics of the pc left.  You are -for- the picture of the pc left fed to you by alt right nitwits and those who've monetized them.

I don't believe in this picture of guilt by association of ideas that you keep talking about. Even if I heard some ideas from camps you consider unsavory, it doesn't mean that (a) the ideas are wrong; or (b) that I accept either all of part of the ideas common in those camps beyond that one idea.

This portrayal of you of camps feeding me ideas, you set up as a false dilemma: either I'm unwittingly picking up memes from bad source and I'm too stupid to know better; or I'm deliberately adopting memes from a bad source, because I secretly identify with that camp. It also begs the question-- by labeling say Jordan Peterson, and then turning directly toward me, you're begging the question. You do this: "Jordan Peterson is an alt-right apologist. And here you are. . . agreeing with something he says. So. . . " First of all, I don't think he IS that, and second, so what if I agree with some of his ideas? Does that make me an alt-right apologist? No.

How about this? I'm aware of very many definitions, of very many different things. And when my brain recognizes a match, I pull up the word that fits. You've done all the things which detractors of the PC left complain about-- ignored fact, used hostile rhetoric, etc. and done so in support of differential treatment among demographic groups. I can say, "Oh. . . that's the kind of person Peterson was talking about."

Now, if you have reserved in your mind a particular definition of the exact words "PC Left," this matters very little to me. Call it the "Kool Khemikal Klub" if you want. The point is that I dislike people who argue as you have argued, and one of the things I like about Peterson is that he's willing to stand up to people who argue as you have argued.

This isn't some meme that I picked up by touching a door handle or something-- I've met people like you before, and disliked the way they argued, before I'd ever heard ANY of these words.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this? - by bennyboy - September 9, 2018 at 8:45 am

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