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Poll: Are you an atheist and also bisexual?
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Atheism & Bisexuality
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality
(May 20, 2009 at 11:11 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I think beauty is beautiful simply because it is so to the evolved observer.
(May 22, 2009 at 6:53 pm)Saerules Wrote: That's how circular Smile =

Oh...that.

Well...that's not circular! Because I do not in any way believe in OBJECTIVE beauty. I believe it is entirely subjective. So all I am saying is that beauty is beautiful to whoever thinks it is. It's entirely subjective - it's just often shared at times.

Quote:I'm sure the answer is so glaringly simple... that i will smack myself upon my forehead in response to my stupidity. Smile

I believe these matters are all entirely subjective. I know of no evidence whatsoever for there being OBJECTIVE 'beauty' or 'magnificence' or whatever. Just as I don't know of any whatsoever of any 'ultimate meaning', 'ultimate purpose' or objective morality.

What I think is that FOR ME at least, beauty is a specific subset of magnificence. So beauty is always magnificent. But because beauty is more specific when I think of 'magnificence' in and of itself I do not think of specifically beauty. Beauty, although being a subset of magnificence is different enough to it for me to think of it as separate in the sense THAT when I think of magnificence I do not think of specifically 'beauty' because I think magnificence as much broader than that so I do not think of magnificence as being specifically beautiful. Although I do think beauty is always magnificence because it is a more concentrated, specific subset of that.

But this is all entirely subjective. I do my best to stick to the definitions but words are flexible too (as with poetry for instance). Words are our servants not our masters and I do my best to get the message across.

As far as I know these matters are all subjective - I know of no evidence of objectivity in it.

So when I say that beauty is whatever is beautiful to whoever thinks it is...I just mean it's entirely subjective! Beauty is beautiful to whoever thinks it is!

EvF
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Atheism & Bisexuality - by Tiberius - August 29, 2008 at 12:38 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by StewartP - August 29, 2008 at 12:45 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Eilonnwy - August 29, 2008 at 1:47 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Brick-top - August 29, 2008 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Ace Otana - August 29, 2008 at 2:20 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Brick-top - August 29, 2008 at 8:25 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Ace Otana - August 30, 2008 at 5:47 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - May 11, 2009 at 4:45 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - May 11, 2009 at 4:46 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Darwinian - August 29, 2008 at 2:22 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Tiberius - August 29, 2008 at 3:49 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by StewartP - August 30, 2008 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Jason Jarred - August 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Eilonnwy - September 1, 2008 at 12:10 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Sam - August 30, 2008 at 11:39 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by KRW1612 - September 1, 2008 at 4:59 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Darwinian - September 1, 2008 at 5:20 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Jason Jarred - September 1, 2008 at 6:57 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by KRW1612 - September 1, 2008 at 6:19 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Tiberius - September 1, 2008 at 7:00 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by KRW1612 - September 1, 2008 at 8:49 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by allan175 - September 2, 2008 at 4:47 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Darwinian - September 2, 2008 at 5:10 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by allan175 - September 2, 2008 at 9:18 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Brick-top - September 2, 2008 at 1:34 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by allan175 - September 4, 2008 at 4:26 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by StewartP - September 2, 2008 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Eilonnwy - September 2, 2008 at 3:36 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by meowmeow - June 29, 2009 at 6:05 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Tiberius - September 2, 2008 at 5:26 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by ArtisticAtheist - September 19, 2008 at 5:27 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Alan - September 25, 2008 at 11:11 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by starbucks - September 25, 2008 at 11:51 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Jason Jarred - September 25, 2008 at 7:33 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by starbucks - September 26, 2008 at 11:53 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by StewartP - September 26, 2008 at 3:14 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Alan - September 25, 2008 at 6:31 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Alan - September 26, 2008 at 8:16 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Rizzo - April 17, 2009 at 6:34 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 4:57 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 20, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - April 20, 2009 at 5:37 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 20, 2009 at 6:42 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - April 20, 2009 at 7:24 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 7:36 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 20, 2009 at 8:16 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Rockthatpiano06 - April 20, 2009 at 11:21 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 21, 2009 at 3:41 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - April 21, 2009 at 7:41 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 4:27 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2009 at 9:47 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Atheismo - April 20, 2009 at 12:47 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Giff - April 21, 2009 at 3:35 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Tanutra - April 21, 2009 at 4:14 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Rizzo - April 21, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - April 21, 2009 at 2:10 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Rizzo - April 22, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Rizzo - April 22, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Tiberius - April 21, 2009 at 9:39 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - April 22, 2009 at 2:54 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 7:20 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - April 22, 2009 at 7:44 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 8:29 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 8:04 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - April 22, 2009 at 8:16 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 10:11 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 10:33 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - April 22, 2009 at 4:23 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 11:07 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Eilonnwy - April 22, 2009 at 12:17 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by LukeMC - April 22, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - April 24, 2009 at 1:01 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - April 24, 2009 at 3:40 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Giff - April 24, 2009 at 4:59 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - April 24, 2009 at 11:01 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Tabby - May 10, 2009 at 3:13 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 3:42 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 3:58 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - May 11, 2009 at 5:15 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by leo-rcc - May 11, 2009 at 5:26 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 7:46 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 7:53 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - May 11, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - May 17, 2009 at 2:15 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:16 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Dotard - May 11, 2009 at 8:30 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:17 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Giff - May 12, 2009 at 7:24 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Azazylix - May 17, 2009 at 1:15 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Azazylix - May 18, 2009 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 8:23 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Azazylix - May 19, 2009 at 8:15 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - May 19, 2009 at 9:22 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - May 18, 2009 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - May 19, 2009 at 12:11 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - May 19, 2009 at 1:07 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Kyuuketsuki - May 19, 2009 at 5:11 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - May 19, 2009 at 11:00 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - May 19, 2009 at 7:23 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by g-mark - May 20, 2009 at 1:19 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Violet - May 19, 2009 at 6:07 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Violet - May 20, 2009 at 2:39 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 20, 2009 at 11:11 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 4:08 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 6:53 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 7:05 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 7:37 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 8:44 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 8:51 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 11:48 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 11:56 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 11:05 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Samson - June 30, 2009 at 2:46 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by LonePiper - July 1, 2009 at 12:54 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Samson - July 1, 2009 at 4:03 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - July 2, 2009 at 10:03 pm
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by LonePiper - July 4, 2009 at 2:31 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Purple Rabbit - July 4, 2009 at 3:19 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by padraic - July 4, 2009 at 4:30 am
RE: Atheism & Bisexuality - by Purple Rabbit - July 4, 2009 at 4:50 am



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