(May 20, 2009 at 11:11 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I think beauty is beautiful simply because it is so to the evolved observer.
(May 22, 2009 at 6:53 pm)Saerules Wrote: That's how circular =
Oh...that.
Well...that's not circular! Because I do not in any way believe in OBJECTIVE beauty. I believe it is entirely subjective. So all I am saying is that beauty is beautiful to whoever thinks it is. It's entirely subjective - it's just often shared at times.
Quote:I'm sure the answer is so glaringly simple... that i will smack myself upon my forehead in response to my stupidity.
I believe these matters are all entirely subjective. I know of no evidence whatsoever for there being OBJECTIVE 'beauty' or 'magnificence' or whatever. Just as I don't know of any whatsoever of any 'ultimate meaning', 'ultimate purpose' or objective morality.
What I think is that FOR ME at least, beauty is a specific subset of magnificence. So beauty is always magnificent. But because beauty is more specific when I think of 'magnificence' in and of itself I do not think of specifically beauty. Beauty, although being a subset of magnificence is different enough to it for me to think of it as separate in the sense THAT when I think of magnificence I do not think of specifically 'beauty' because I think magnificence as much broader than that so I do not think of magnificence as being specifically beautiful. Although I do think beauty is always magnificence because it is a more concentrated, specific subset of that.
But this is all entirely subjective. I do my best to stick to the definitions but words are flexible too (as with poetry for instance). Words are our servants not our masters and I do my best to get the message across.
As far as I know these matters are all subjective - I know of no evidence of objectivity in it.
So when I say that beauty is whatever is beautiful to whoever thinks it is...I just mean it's entirely subjective! Beauty is beautiful to whoever thinks it is!
EvF