(September 27, 2018 at 10:24 am)Sal Wrote:(September 22, 2018 at 9:45 am)Little Rik Wrote: Atheists in general rely on science but science contradict them almost at every step especially when it say that something must come from something else so the universe must come from something yet most atheists deny that the universe must come from a creator.Who or what created the creator?
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If your answer is that the creator always existed, then why not the universe always existing? What's so special about this creator that can't be applied to its creation?
This means that saying the creator always existed, but not the universe, is Special Pleading. A logical fallacy I'm sure you've encountered many times in your postings.
One exciting thing in life is that mysteries are something that produce excitement and desire to know and God's creation must be the most important mystery to me at least.
My policy is that I learn step by step and always stay open with my mind to everything that make sense.
I am not interested in speculations how, when, where if ever God always existed or whether it started to existed at one stage in time beside time doesn't even exist in reality.
Time exist in this material reality in order to see the distance that goes from small consciousness to big consciousness.
As soon as the consciousness reach the high of human emancipation then all mysteries will be known.
In the meantime all it should be done is to learn and learn which is something that doesn't apply to anyone who put a brake to all possibilities.
