(September 27, 2018 at 10:28 am)unfogged Wrote:(September 27, 2018 at 9:46 am)Little Rik Wrote: I have already gone several times through the fact that as far as the body is alive the consciousness is there with the body-brain.
That doesn't mean that once the body die also the consciousness goes to the dogs.
Would you die when your vehicle die?
Why should you?
The body is a vehicle not the real you.
Would you say that your car is you?
That is one of the most ridiculous analogies I've ever heard. Any property that is dependent on functioning hardware is going to cease when the hardware fails. A better analogy would be a program running on a computer. When the computer shuts down the program stops, it doesn't float off to run on some supernatural CPU in the sky.
The computer has been programmed by a mind so obviously it will comply with the information that such a mind put in it therefore has absolutely nothing to do with the point we are talking about.

Quote:Evidence come only once you get knowledge.
And knowledge is not something that come easily.
First you got to be interested in something.
After that you got to learn and learn.
Quote:You are saying that to acquire knowledge you must examine the evidence. I agree with that. The evidence must come first.
Not at all unfog.
Spirituality goes outside the physical arena.
The evidence in spirituality is already within but it is like a nugget of gold hidden under ground and we spiritualists call it subconscious mind.
Knowledge is the work necessary to reach this treasure within.
Quote:Atheism is not the best way to start something as important as the real knowledge.
That kind of knowledge that goes outside the borders of physicality.
Quote:Word salad does not convey anything useful.
The problem with atheists is that they look for solutions outside for something that is inside.
