Mostly bizarre.

[Little Rik]

The computer has been programmed by a mind so obviously it will comply with the information that such a mind put in it therefore has absolutely nothing to do with the point we are talking about.  

No, my car dying had nothing to do with the point.  As far as we can determine our consciousness "runs" on our physical brains in much the same way that programs run on computer hardware.  Shut down the computer and the program is no longer running.  Shut down the brain and our consciousness is no longer running.  We have zero evidence that the consciousness is preserved in any way so there is no rational reason to believe that it is.  All anybody has ever offered is wishful thinking.

Wrong again unfog.

There is zero evidence that the consciousness die when the body die and there is zero evidence that the two are inseparable for ever.
As you are connected to your vehicle when you drive you also are free to terminate this connection when you wish.
Some people commit suicide because they want to terminate this connection before natural death occur but most people terminate this connection when their body had enough and die.
However if you are interested in what make sense then you should understand that the death of the consciousness does not make any sense.
After million years that evolution take us from lower form of life to what we are now a sudden stop and death of our evolution before we reach the goal of life does not make any sense.
Human evolution can not possibly be the end of total evolution.
There is still a lot to learn and a lot to do to reach peace of mind and total happiness.
Only fools think that what we have achieve so far is enough.  

Not at all unfog.
Spirituality goes outside the physical arena.
The evidence in spirituality is already within but it is like a nugget of gold hidden under ground and we spiritualists call it subconscious mind.

Spirituality is a meaningless term until you can provide a consistent definition for it and show that it exists.  Every person seems to define it differently and therefore no useful discussions can be had because there is no common ground.  As far as I can tell, nobody who uses the word has any clue what it is they are talking about.

I am not really interested what other people think of spirituality.
To me the word simply means to unearth or bring to light what lies in the subconscious mind.

You yourself must have noticed that after thinking and thinking in many cases the solution to your problem pop up.
Where you think it pop up from other than from your subconscious mind.
Spirituality is an intelligent way to allow the coming of these solution to emerge a lot lot easier than struggle all the time beside solutions also means peace of mind and bliss.    

Knowledge is the work necessary to reach this treasure within.

That makes no sense at all.  I have no idea what definition you are using for "knowledge" because none that I know fit in that sentence.  Knowledge is the result of learning.

Before to learn you need a system of knowledge unless you are a cave man that discover the fire by pure chance.
Yoga is a knowledge that allow you to learn.  

The problem with atheists is that they look for solutions outside for something that is inside.  

You do not appear to understand your audience at all.  Skeptics like myself look for solutions that are testable and demonstrably real.  Atheism is the conclusion I have reached based on the investigation of claims for various gods.  When you can define whatever it is you are talking about and provide evidence for it then there may be a reason for me to change my mind.  Until then your claims are indistinguishable from delusions and I will continue to disregard them as useless.

Yours is the way of the cave man that after ages and ages discover the fire by pure chance.

I on the other hand put my trust in a real teacher that has been there and done that in order to arrive to the goal of life.
In this way I benefit from his knowledge so I don't have to struggle to find my way to the finish line of total evolution.  

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I managed to travel outside our reality last night, it was pretty amazing. I'll tell you how you do it:

1) Touch something around you, and focus on whatever image your mind creates to represent how it feels.

2) Imagine a hole being ripped into the image.

3) Project your consciousness through the hole.

4) When you come out the other side, you can see the master reality.

5) What do you see? If it is mostly green and golden, then you've actually escaped our reality and you're viewing the structure it is built on. If you see anything else, you've done it wrong and you're just imaging that you've escaped.

Gee, I would not have thought that it was so so simple.  

Silly me that I passed a lifetime doing the opposite thing.