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Mostly bizarre.
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RE: Mostly bizarre.
(September 29, 2018 at 9:29 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(September 28, 2018 at 11:40 am)unfogged Wrote: No, my car dying had nothing to do with the point.  As far as we can determine our consciousness "runs" on our physical brains in much the same way that programs run on computer hardware.  Shut down the computer and the program is no longer running.  Shut down the brain and our consciousness is no longer running.  We have zero evidence that the consciousness is preserved in any way so there is no rational reason to believe that it is.  All anybody has ever offered is wishful thinking.


Wrong again unfog.

There is zero evidence that the consciousness die when the body die and there is zero evidence that the two are inseparable for ever.

In order to believe that consciousness survives the death of the body we'd need evidence for that happening or, at the very least, evidence for a mechanism that would make it possible. Since we have none, and we have plenty of evidence that consciousness is tied to the brain there is only one reasonable conclusion at this point.


Quote:As you are connected to your vehicle when you drive you also are free to terminate this connection when you wish.

Well, there's your problem. I am in physical contact with my vehicle but I am not connected to it. Please demonstrate the "you" that is separate from your physical brian and show that it can be disconnected and remain intact. I'll wait.


Quote:After million years that evolution take us from lower form of life to what we are now a sudden stop and death of our evolution before we reach the goal of life does not make any sense.
Human evolution can not possibly be the end of total evolution.
There is still a lot to learn and a lot to do to reach peace of mind and total happiness.
Only fools think that what we have achieve so far is enough.  Lightbulb

Wow. An utter lack of understanding about evolution as well. Evolution has no goal.

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Quote:Spirituality is a meaningless term until you can provide a consistent definition for it and show that it exists.  Every person seems to define it differently and therefore no useful discussions can be had because there is no common ground.  As far as I can tell, nobody who uses the word has any clue what it is they are talking about.


I am not really interested what other people think of spirituality.
To me the word simply means to unearth or bring to light what lies in the subconscious mind.

Fine, but that's not what others seem to mean when they say it. Calling that spirituality just muddies the conversation. If I hadn't asked for your definition I never would have guessed that that is what you mean.


Quote:You yourself must have noticed that after thinking and thinking in many cases the solution to your problem pop up.
Where you think it pop up from other than from your subconscious mind.

Yes, but based on subconscious evaluation of the evidence I already have. The fact that the conscious mind does not have access to the details of the operation of the subconscious doesn't make what is happening any less a natural function of a working brain.

Quote:Spirituality is an intelligent way to allow the coming of these solution to emerge a lot lot easier than struggle all the time beside solutions also means peace of mind and bliss.  Lightbulb  

Deepak would be proud; that's gibberish.

Quote:Before to learn you need a system of knowledge unless you are a cave man that discover the fire by pure chance.
Yoga is a knowledge that allow you to learn.  Lightbulb

You need evidence and the ability to reason; that result in knowledge. "Yoga is a knowledge" is just more gibberish. I gather that English is not your first language so that may be part of the problem but what you are saying simply does not make any sense.



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Quote:You do not appear to understand your audience at all.  Skeptics like myself look for solutions that are testable and demonstrably real.  Atheism is the conclusion I have reached based on the investigation of claims for various gods.  When you can define whatever it is you are talking about and provide evidence for it then there may be a reason for me to change my mind.  Until then your claims are indistinguishable from delusions and I will continue to disregard them as useless.

Yours is the way of the cave man that after ages and ages discover the fire by pure chance.

I on the other hand put my trust in a real teacher that has been there and done that in order to arrive to the goal of life.
In this way I benefit from his knowledge so I don't have to struggle to find my way to the finish line of total evolution.   Skunk

I tried, but I think it is quite apparent that we can not have any meaningful conversation. If you want to try explaining what you mean you need to do so in terms of things that are real. I don't deal in deepities.
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Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 9:47 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 10:11 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 10:15 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Anomalocaris - September 22, 2018 at 10:25 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Homeless Nutter - September 22, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 22, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Anomalocaris - September 22, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 11:13 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 11:16 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Anomalocaris - September 22, 2018 at 12:07 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 22, 2018 at 11:13 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 22, 2018 at 12:41 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 25, 2018 at 6:33 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2018 at 11:42 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - October 1, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - October 1, 2018 at 7:01 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - October 1, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - October 1, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - October 1, 2018 at 8:17 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - October 1, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - October 4, 2018 at 12:39 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - October 4, 2018 at 7:28 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - October 4, 2018 at 6:07 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - October 1, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 1, 2018 at 8:01 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - October 1, 2018 at 9:28 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - September 22, 2018 at 10:15 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 10:38 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by purplepurpose - September 22, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - September 22, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by DodosAreDead - September 22, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 22, 2018 at 11:01 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Anomalocaris - September 22, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Anomalocaris - September 22, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 22, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Pat Mustard - September 26, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - September 22, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 25, 2018 at 6:23 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 25, 2018 at 6:33 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 25, 2018 at 6:45 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 26, 2018 at 6:30 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 30, 2018 at 5:03 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 30, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - September 30, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - September 25, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2018 at 5:21 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Anomalocaris - September 25, 2018 at 8:08 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 29, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - September 29, 2018 at 8:06 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 30, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - September 30, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 30, 2018 at 11:04 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - September 30, 2018 at 11:15 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Bob Kelso - September 25, 2018 at 5:30 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 25, 2018 at 7:35 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Aegon - September 25, 2018 at 7:38 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Amarok - September 25, 2018 at 8:02 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by The Valkyrie - September 25, 2018 at 9:04 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by sdelsolray - September 25, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 26, 2018 at 6:15 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 6:19 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 26, 2018 at 7:36 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 27, 2018 at 9:46 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 27, 2018 at 10:03 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 27, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 27, 2018 at 10:18 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 27, 2018 at 10:31 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 27, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 28, 2018 at 11:21 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - September 28, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 28, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 29, 2018 at 9:29 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 29, 2018 at 6:37 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 30, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 30, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - October 1, 2018 at 7:05 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - October 1, 2018 at 7:59 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by I_am_not_mafia - September 26, 2018 at 6:24 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by chimp3 - September 26, 2018 at 7:05 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - September 26, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 27, 2018 at 9:22 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 27, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by vulcanlogician - September 27, 2018 at 9:25 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 27, 2018 at 9:26 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Sal - September 27, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 27, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Silver - September 27, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - September 28, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Fidel_Castronaut - September 27, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by unfogged - September 27, 2018 at 12:50 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by CapnAwesome - September 28, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 12:49 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - September 28, 2018 at 1:16 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 29, 2018 at 11:02 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Angrboda - September 29, 2018 at 11:56 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 29, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 29, 2018 at 12:30 pm
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by robvalue - September 30, 2018 at 1:53 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2018 at 4:41 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 30, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 30, 2018 at 10:14 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by LastPoet - September 30, 2018 at 10:15 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - September 30, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 4, 2018 at 12:58 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by downbeatplumb - October 5, 2018 at 5:06 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - October 5, 2018 at 4:36 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by LastPoet - October 5, 2018 at 4:53 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Little Rik - October 5, 2018 at 5:53 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by LastPoet - October 5, 2018 at 6:19 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 5, 2018 at 6:34 am
RE: Mostly bizarre. - by downbeatplumb - October 5, 2018 at 9:03 am



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