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Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
(October 3, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Aliza Wrote: Yes, they will stick in people's minds. If you don't want things like this out there, then don't sexually assault women. It's that simple. Just don't do that.

The message for people... all people is that the things you say and do become a part of this world once you do them. Conduct your life responsibly and with the expectation that records of your actions are being noted. If you do something wrong to someone... if you offend them or hurt them, make that thing right rather than kicking and screaming on the defensive (and very much offensive) as Kavanaugh did.

The correct answer to this whole debacle was for Kavanaugh to have immediately placed a phone call to Dr. Ford to address this with her personally. He needed to apologize and explain to her that what he did (if he did it while he was blacked out), was clearly wrong and that he did not continue this behavior into his adulthood. He should have offered her his heartfelt support and have offered to try to help her heal in any way that he could.

He utterly disgraced himself with the temper tantrum he threw before the senate committee.

Ok. I get it. You believe Dr Ford and you don't believe Judge Kavanaugh and that's it.

(October 3, 2018 at 12:46 pm)epronovost Wrote: The same can be said about Ford. Some believe her and others thinks she's lying for political gain. Some believe she is a criminal and this will follow her no matter what career path she takes. She stand to lose the same thing than Kavanaugh, her job and her reputation if she isn't widely believed. Even people who have placed legitimate and completly recognised allegation of sexual misconduct against them have seen their lives and careers destroyed. On the opposite end of the spectrum many people convicted of grave sexual offenses have managed to have succesful careers and lives afterward (Mike Tyson is pretty much an example of that).

In the end, when accusations are made some people will believe them and others won't. Public personnas who derive their power, prestige and money from their reputation are those most likely to lose from those accusations, but at the same time this reputation can allow them to victimise people more easily and in more impunity. he who lives by the sword dies by the sword; he who lives off his reputation dies by it.

You're assuming his guilt before he's been proven guilty.

(October 3, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Aliza Wrote: This woman on MSNBC last night was talking about her background check to be a Federal Judge. She was asked about everyone she's ever lived with going all the way back, and every illegal drug she's ever used. She said that there was a sense from the questions they were asking that the probe contained disqualifying questions, and that the scope did include all history of indiscriminate behavior.

Kavanaugh clearly knew he drank too much in high school. He knew the reputation he carried among his friends. I'm sure he was aware of the book written by Mark Judge, and he had to know that it was "out there" that he had conducted himself like an out-of-control, wild young man. If he chose not to disclose that information during the background check, then not only did he lie by stating that these things didn't happen, but he also opened himself up for scrutiny. Make no mistake about that.

What are you talking about?  Most of the testimony from fellow students says that he was respectful and well behaved.
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Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 3:26 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 3:31 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Brian37 - September 27, 2018 at 3:40 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 3:50 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Whateverist - September 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Dom - September 27, 2018 at 3:44 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by julep - September 27, 2018 at 3:46 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 3:50 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 3:52 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 3:54 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 3:54 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 3:56 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 4:10 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Brian37 - September 27, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 4:17 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Pat Mustard - September 27, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 4:16 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Brian37 - September 27, 2018 at 4:19 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by brewer - September 27, 2018 at 4:26 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 4:30 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Dom - September 27, 2018 at 4:44 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 4:45 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Amarok - September 27, 2018 at 4:47 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 6:10 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 6:29 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by brewer - September 27, 2018 at 4:45 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 4:51 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 5:03 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Dom - September 27, 2018 at 5:20 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 5:29 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Dom - September 27, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 6:46 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 6:47 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Dom - September 27, 2018 at 6:47 pm
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by KevinM1 - September 27, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by KevinM1 - September 27, 2018 at 7:22 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by RobbyPants - September 27, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by KevinM1 - September 27, 2018 at 9:09 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by RobbyPants - September 27, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 27, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 7:50 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Grim - September 29, 2018 at 12:48 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 29, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Grim - September 29, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aroura - September 29, 2018 at 1:35 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Grim - September 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aroura - September 29, 2018 at 1:41 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Grim - September 29, 2018 at 1:45 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 29, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Divinity - September 30, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Brian37 - September 30, 2018 at 12:20 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Pat Mustard - September 30, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 7:49 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by brewer - September 27, 2018 at 9:03 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Pat Mustard - September 28, 2018 at 5:59 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Fireball - September 27, 2018 at 9:23 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by KevinM1 - September 27, 2018 at 9:33 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Fireball - September 27, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by brewer - September 28, 2018 at 8:49 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Dom - September 27, 2018 at 9:37 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 9:50 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 10:19 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by LadyForCamus - September 27, 2018 at 10:39 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Fireball - September 27, 2018 at 11:32 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by KevinM1 - September 27, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by RobbyPants - September 28, 2018 at 9:29 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 28, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Amarok - September 28, 2018 at 9:52 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by RobbyPants - September 28, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 28, 2018 at 7:36 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 28, 2018 at 9:05 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 28, 2018 at 7:43 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 28, 2018 at 8:25 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Minimalist - September 28, 2018 at 8:08 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 28, 2018 at 9:14 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by brewer - September 28, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 28, 2018 at 10:35 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - September 30, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Huggy Bear - September 29, 2018 at 12:24 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Amarok - September 29, 2018 at 12:49 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 29, 2018 at 11:18 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 29, 2018 at 11:22 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Dom - September 29, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - September 29, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by pablo628 - September 29, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by airportkid - September 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by pablo628 - September 29, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Angrboda - September 29, 2018 at 4:44 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Brian37 - September 30, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 1, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 2, 2018 at 12:38 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 2, 2018 at 12:41 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Silver - October 2, 2018 at 12:41 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aroura - October 2, 2018 at 12:48 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 2, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 2, 2018 at 5:34 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - October 2, 2018 at 5:50 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 3, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 3, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 3, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 3, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 3, 2018 at 4:17 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 3, 2018 at 4:49 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 3, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aroura - October 2, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 2, 2018 at 7:54 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - October 3, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Divinity - October 4, 2018 at 10:18 am
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 4, 2018 at 6:34 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Joods - October 4, 2018 at 6:40 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 2, 2018 at 8:06 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Lek - October 2, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Divinity - October 3, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 3, 2018 at 12:27 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Aliza - October 3, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by brewer - October 3, 2018 at 4:30 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Amarok - October 3, 2018 at 9:18 pm
RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared! - by Amarok - October 4, 2018 at 7:04 pm

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