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Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron
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RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron
Well there either is evidence or there isn't. If there is then your belief isn't faith and it's rational. If there isn't then it IS faith and is also irrational (because it's irrational to believe in something without evidence).

You say you have faith that the evidence exists. But using the definition we are using here that means: You have belief without evidence that the evidence exists...well - you believe that the evidence exists...I wouldn't say that's belief without evidence in evidence...that's nonsensical - you don't need evidence for evidence itself!

TRUST in evidence maybe...BELIEF in it....but not FAITH in it! Belief without evidence in evidence is nonsensical because if you believe in evidence then you cannot have belief without evidence IN it because you DO believe in evidence lol...

Seems like a void there lol.

Oh? And YOU being picky? I don't mind lol! I kind of need a taste of my own medicine LOL.

EvF
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Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Dotard - May 23, 2009 at 12:49 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Giff - May 23, 2009 at 4:10 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 9:33 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 10:20 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 11:43 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Edwardo Piet - May 23, 2009 at 11:47 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Giff - May 24, 2009 at 6:58 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 6:55 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:00 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:11 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:23 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:29 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 3:25 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 4:08 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 4:39 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 5:04 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 7:34 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 8:13 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 1:22 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by chatpilot - May 26, 2009 at 11:48 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 2:30 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by chatpilot - May 26, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by chatpilot - May 27, 2009 at 12:44 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 1:49 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 7:01 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 7:14 pm

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