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What is Ignosticism?
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RE: What is Ignosticism?
(October 6, 2018 at 7:42 am)robvalue Wrote: I have come up with a formula which does, I think, cover every god idea I’ve yet heard. Each definition can be split into one or more of the following groups:

1) A creative force that made our reality

2) Various special abilities and accolades for the creative force

3) Relabelling things that are already known to exist, or abstract notions that already have a well-used meaning

4) World salad nonsense

I’ll be happy to take the god challenge, and apply this to any definition that can be found. I’ll be interested to see if it holds up. Personally, I’d prefer everyone agreed on definition 1 only, as I find the rest of them to be pointless. Sadly this will probably only be the case for deists.

My responses to each section are generally:

1) I have no opinion about that

2) This makes such a thing extremely unlikely

3) We already have words for that / you're equivocating

4) I don’t understand what this even means

Re # 1 "A creative force that made our reality" ....

I disagree. 
It has to be (for a god to be worth it's salt) ... 
"A creative force that made/formed (all) "reality", (not just ours). 
....which is why Ignosticism makes sense.
A god that "exists" finds that it *must* participate in a portion of Reality,  not all of it, and Reality is and always was a larger "set" 
than that which the god participates in. Where did this Reality (in which the gods *must participate*) come from ? 
The gods don't answer the important  question.

Agnosticism gives the "god" concept far more value than it deserves.
Is it necessary to take a position towards every incoherent idea ? .... No
Do I have to be agnostic towards Pink Sparkly Unicorns ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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What is Ignosticism? - by vulcanlogician - October 6, 2018 at 4:26 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 6, 2018 at 5:15 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 5:29 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Belacqua - October 6, 2018 at 8:44 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by vulcanlogician - October 7, 2018 at 9:46 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 7:42 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 7, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 8, 2018 at 3:22 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by ignoramus - October 6, 2018 at 7:56 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by brewer - October 6, 2018 at 8:27 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by DodosAreDead - October 6, 2018 at 9:41 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by brewer - October 6, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 6, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 3:14 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Devout-Humanist - October 6, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bahana - October 6, 2018 at 6:39 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by ignoramus - October 6, 2018 at 8:17 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 7, 2018 at 1:10 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by ignoramus - October 6, 2018 at 9:52 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Belacqua - October 6, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 9:59 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by vulcanlogician - October 7, 2018 at 10:59 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2018 at 12:13 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2018 at 12:49 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 1:00 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 11:12 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Silver - October 8, 2018 at 1:09 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 1:34 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2018 at 12:37 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 2:02 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 8, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Alan V - October 8, 2018 at 12:46 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 8:12 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by brewer - October 8, 2018 at 9:04 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 8, 2018 at 11:08 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 9, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 9, 2018 at 12:27 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 9, 2018 at 10:31 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Grandizer - October 9, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 9, 2018 at 1:31 pm

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