(October 8, 2018 at 12:28 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:(October 8, 2018 at 11:50 am)haig Wrote: The concept/reality of god is far from meaningless or useless.....just ask the billions of religious folk. It may be meaningless to you and that's OK.
Everyone has their own idea what god is or does.....I see from your comments that you have some ideas as well on what god needs to be and do. That is a form of definition by the way.
My point above is that even though folks have a different idea about what god is or means or does, in the views of most folks a common trait would be supernatural. God can be rejected on that simple basis alone.
Dismissing the existence of god because you can't define god is a philosophical concept. To walk around saying your "definition of god is meaningless therefor god does not exist" is not what I would call a convincing argument. People who believe in a god have their own definition of what that means, and will vary from person to person, religion to religion. That is human nature. Even within specific religions, god will mean different things to different people.
Ignosticism is a pompus dismissal of god and religion. It's like saying "I'm not even going to challenge why you believe in god because you can't even define god, so there!"
You just contradicted yourself.
First you say "THE concept/reality is far from meaningless or useless" .... then you say "Everyone has their own idea of what god is or does"
If everyone has their own idea, there is no "the" anything. Thanks for making my point.
The POINT of Ignosticism is there is no coherent definition of a god.
The fact that there are billions of incoherent different ideas is totally irrelevant.
You can call it whatever you like, and say Ignosticism is "pompous", but I see YOU did not offer a coherent definition of a god.
I don't *bother* to challenge anyone's beliefs ... who determined THAT was a standard ? Are you in 2nd Grade ?
I will dismiss as nonsense whatever I find to be nonsense, with or without anyone's approval. If you find it pompous, too bad.
Ignosticism stands. No one here can come up with a definition of a god that cannot be shot down in 5 seconds.
You forgot to add "so there!"
