RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
October 11, 2018 at 1:13 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2018 at 1:14 am by robvalue.)
God can just achieve whatever he wants instantly, can he not? He could put everything and everyone into exactly the state he wants them to be, right now. Or is there some random restriction placed on him, when his power becomes an inconvenience?
The idea of long term goals is a very human idea. We have to plan, watch things play out, put effort in and overcome obstacles. Also, a goal implies the possibility of failure. I assume any obstacles god has he has made himself, and could unmake them just as easily.
[Something about free will.] Yes of course. Free will. The "your Snoke theory sucks" card of apologetics. Am I an entirely predictable agent, or not? If I am, I have no freedom from anything. I’ve been programmed. If I’m not, then god doesn’t know what I’m going to do, so I could screw up his goals. This latter option is way better for apologists, if they could allow god this "weakness". It gives at least some level of excuse, rather than him simply watching a theatre he planned out from the start, which he decided needs to feel its suffering.
The idea of long term goals is a very human idea. We have to plan, watch things play out, put effort in and overcome obstacles. Also, a goal implies the possibility of failure. I assume any obstacles god has he has made himself, and could unmake them just as easily.
[Something about free will.] Yes of course. Free will. The "your Snoke theory sucks" card of apologetics. Am I an entirely predictable agent, or not? If I am, I have no freedom from anything. I’ve been programmed. If I’m not, then god doesn’t know what I’m going to do, so I could screw up his goals. This latter option is way better for apologists, if they could allow god this "weakness". It gives at least some level of excuse, rather than him simply watching a theatre he planned out from the start, which he decided needs to feel its suffering.
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