(October 11, 2018 at 11:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(October 11, 2018 at 11:54 am)possibletarian Wrote: How can we be scientifically by default be p-zombies when they only exist hypothetically ?
Can you provide some reason to think your statement is true ?
To claim that consciousness exists it should be directly observed. Until then it doesn't exist and scientifically all human beings are p-zombies
(October 11, 2018 at 11:56 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: And the motive for spending tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of dollars just to hurt a supercomputer would be what?
Job creation. Scientists already spent 100 billion dollars on useless ISS
1) consciousness has been observed, every time i chat with someone in fact, every time i feel pain or emotion you are mixing the fact we do not know what consciousness is with whether it exists or not. Consciousness has a very clear observable definition.
consciousness
ˈkɒnʃəsnɪs/
noun
noun: consciousness; plural noun: consciousnesses
1.
the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings.
"she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
synonyms: awareness, wakefulness, alertness, responsiveness, sentience
"she failed to regain consciousness"
antonyms: unconsciousness
2.
a person's awareness or perception of something.
"her acute consciousness of Luke's presence"
synonyms: awareness of, knowledge of the existence of, alertness to, sensitivity to, realization of, cognizance of, mindfulness of, perception of, apprehension of, recognition of
"her acute consciousness of Luke's presence"
2) Why do you care what they spend on the space station, is it even real to you ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'