RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
October 29, 2018 at 12:30 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2018 at 12:31 pm by WinterHold.)
(October 29, 2018 at 3:14 am)Deesse23 Wrote:We weren't "arguing" or even "discussing"; he was bombarding the place with wrong info. Which I can't remain silent to.(October 28, 2018 at 3:22 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: So I don't take orders from anyone; especially people who think they are smarter than other people which is such a turn off !My irony-meter just exploded. I originally only remarked that its funny to see two Muslims arguing over the correct interpetation of the Quran.
It was you who told me to read and learn, which is ironical as well, considering that reading doesnt mean accepting all unsubstatiated BS.
So who started telling whom to do what?
There is a very big difference between "different perspectives" and between "false perspectives".
Being a Muslim doesn't excuse me, or give me the right to lie. It sure is doesn't give me the right to defend the lie just because it was said by a Muslim.
Actually; Quran wise; there's an explicit verse about this:
Quote:Sura 4, The Quran:In other words; it's a religious sentence upon my back to expose what I know for sure is wrong; that's called justice. Even if it means "exposing myself".
Sahih International
(135) O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted.
Quote:Is this a silent admission that you actually have no better reason to believe than "comfort" or "distraction from reaity"? And then you get into arguments with other people why the situation in your part of the world stull sucks, but not in other?
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Look: i have sympathy for your situation, living in Arabia and under circumstances much worse than mine. But Islam is not a way cope with the situation, its a major part of the problem you guys have down there!
I didn't see God, the angles, the devil or an alien. The only thing I saw was a design that makes sense, I know for sure that "something" cannot be originated from "nothing"; and the universe began from nothing.
Take the Big Bang Model -which is the most probable-: Energy, time and space already assumed existing before the bang even happens:
Quote:The Big Bang as the origin of the universe: One of the common misconceptions about the Big Bang model is the belief that it was the origin of the universe. However, the Big Bang model does not comment about how the universe came into being. Current conception of the Big Bang model assumes the existence of energy, time, and space, and does not comment about their origin or the cause of the dense and high temperature initial state of the universe.[134]
This is reality. I don't want a president or a politician that ignores such mystery and keeps repeating to me "the same old lies". At least; with the Quran I can rest assured that the big bang was caused by God. If the main three "energy-time-space" are "assumed" for the theory to work; then I can also assume the existence of a God behind their existence.
Thank you for putting yourself in my shoes for a little while. Saudi Arabia -and the whole Middle East- is corrupted by money before religion; Arab dictators have lots of cash but they never read. So someday their cash would end; and I don't expect that any knowledge will enter their heads.