(September 27, 2011 at 12:32 am)Justtristo Wrote:(September 26, 2011 at 11:31 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You mean "allegedly" a virgin, right?
As an old college prof of my said of "Mary" ..."it wasn't the finger of god that touched her."
When I was a child I heard stories of Jesus being the illegitimate son of a Roman solider.
Just so....
Origen, a xtian writer of the 3d century, attributes these words to Celsus, a late 2d century Greco-Roman writer who trashed xtianity when it emerged from the darkness.
Quote:Origen, Contra Celsum 1.28
Translation, quoted from Mead.
"Jesus had come from a village in Judea, and was the son of a poor Jewess who gained her living by the work of her own hands. His mother had been turned out of doors by her husband, who was a carpenter by trade, on being convicted of adultery [with a soldier named Panthéra (i.32)]. Being thus driven away by her husband, and wandering about in disgrace, she gave birth to Jesus, a bastard. Jesus, on account of his poverty, was hired out to go to Egypt. While there he acquired certain (magical) powers which Egyptians pride themselves on possessing. He returned home highly elated at possessing these powers, and on the strength of them gave himself out to be a god."
Curiously, this story was later incorporated into the Jewish Talmud.
