Caravans

[Amarok]

Says the person why isn't in the caravan and has never talked any of them .....

You were?? You know these people personally?


No??


So how does that make your opinion valid?

I never said i was or i did 

And what opinion was that again ?

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But you know the difference between you and me.

I lived in central America, I speak Spanish, some of my family are Mexican. My father lives in Mexico. I've spent a total of a year and a half in Latin America. I've spoken to hundreds, if not thousands of people in central America in my life. Many of them talked about wanting to go the the United States and I never heard, not even a single time, that they wanted to go there for reasons of safety. It's almost universally economic reasons. 

I know this sounds insulting, and it's not meant that way, but the position that these people would come all the way up here by foot for safety reasons is an ignorant one.

I mean it in a literal sense, not as a slur to imply stupidity like people on the forums do. Only someone ignorant of central America, Mexico, and the view of America by central Americans, and the long history of people caravaning to the US (I actually saw one in 2011 at the Guatemala/Mexico jorder), could believe that this caravan is motivated by saftey over economics. It just doesn't make sense on a number of levels that I've already covered. I genuinely don't understand why you guys are so insistent in sticking to this fable, when you don't even know basically anything about the region. 

Yes I haven't talked to anyone in the caravan, but unlike you I have talked to tons of people, I their own language and in their own country about the US. I'd throw out a wager that you haven't done either, and if you've even been to a Latin American country, it was on a gringo style vacation in a resort. 

So I'm just going to urge you and jorg to sit back and consider what you actually know. Not what you've heard lately in the media, but what you actually know about the situation.

1. I have lived in Mexico city and and have been throughout central America my second girlfriend is from Mexico. And i have meet plenty who say the opposite . But that 's just clash of antidotes .

2.And actually you refute the concept of them going by foot to safety you just assert it it's wrong .

3. You can urge me till you tongue bleeds you have no case . 

So you can take your presumptions about me and shove em .

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Except that violence isn't rampant in all of central America. So everything that follows that falls apart.

In the majority of central america it is 

As I pointed out, there are countries there less dangerous than the US.

And great many of them have other safety issues 

Work and wages are the only thing that makes America a more attractive option than Costa Rica or Nircaragua.

Nicaragua is suffering civil unrest and Costa Rica crime rate has shot up since 2017 

To me it's amazing to hear people who have never been to any of these countries speak as though they know anything about them

So people like you then how can't even spell Nicaragua correctly