RE: If you're an Atheist, what comforts you?
November 7, 2018 at 7:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2018 at 7:31 pm by Dragonfly.)
(November 7, 2018 at 1:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Is there anything specific to judaism that you have difficulty imagining a secular source of?
Rituals that lend to a sense of unity and continuity, such as when Jews light sabbath candles at the same time around the world every Friday and have for hundreds of years.
Structure: A community that has a structure in place for celebrating and mourning. There's a detailed plan laid out for when a loved one dies. The plan helps the family know what to do and how to grieve and heal. The plan also involves the community, so they are there to support you.
Prayer and Scriptures: Hope and comfort/soothing in times of stress. I can find some comfort in nature and other things, but nothing so far is coming close to the way I felt/believed when I believed in God.
(November 7, 2018 at 1:38 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(November 7, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Dragonfly Wrote: Actually, in Judaism there isn't much talk about the afterlife. In all of my years of attending a Conservative synagogue, I've never once heard of anyone mention an afterlife. So my comfort from Judaism was not as much from a standpoint of heaven (that was leftover from my Christian upbringing), but more from the structure for living, rituals, community, help processing and healing from difficult events (like the synagogue shooting), the belief in tikkun olam (repairing the world), and other things. Right now I'm wondering if there's enough value in that to want to leave Judaism altogether. But the rituals that we do certain things "as God commanded us to" is troubling because of the things they say are commanded aren't find in the Torah but have been added by rabbis. So an increasing amount of things are prohibited by rabbis that aren't prohibited in the written Torah, so it's getting even more insane to try to tease out what's in the Torah and what's being hashed out by rabbis. And then there's the fact that I don't LIKE the God of the Torah. He's a cruel and sick bastard. So how can I say good things about him in prayer?
There is a movement of secular Judaism. Have you considered it?
You know, I haven't, and that's mostly because I was not born Jewish but converted, so I don't have the cultural background that most would probably share. It's worth exploring, though, so thanks for bringing it up. I'll see if there's a congregation near me.
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