(November 30, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Truth of the matter is that we "won" the cold war (then againb...take a look at the current state of the whitehouse) because we organized and funded a massive campaign of global subversion and proxy war. The soviets weren't as good at that game as we are, and their wallets weren't long enough withstand the siege. The current owners of the russian fed appear to have been taking notes, though!
Or, you know, blah blah blah, reaganite "evil empire".
Yes, that is what I was saying to cherub786: the U.S won that war, and utilized its allies perfectly (used the men from Saudi Arabia, used the intelligence reports of Pakistan, and used its own media and propaganda and weapon technology) to form a deformed strong fist that took the USSR down for good.
The future brought the Russians back as they learned from the Afghani experience, and flipped the table against the U.S.A: Russia created its own Islamic proxy -represented in the Shiite camp in the Middle East- to confront the American Sunni proxy.
Russia is supporting Assad (a Shiite), Iran (a Shiite state) while the U.S is supporting Saudi Arabia (a Sunni state).
The soviets weren't good at the game. But Putin has plans to change that.