(December 10, 2018 at 6:12 pm)tackattack Wrote: OK So banning AC/DC in schools isn't OK but instrumental music because it conjures religious thoughts and words in children's head is ok?
It's not meant to be a loaded question. I do agree that there's a connotation with the word tolerate. I should rephrase the sacred statement for clarity purposes, Boru. You gave a great list of sancrosanct beliefs that you care nothing about like religious belief, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender identity. Things we politically call unalieanable rights. Things a society can agree on are poor discriminators to personhood.
I completely agree that you have the right to call bull shit on something you disagree with, especially if it's being forced upon you. My question is not whether it's ok to question that belief, but whether it should be tolerated. I think a lot of people, a lot of Christians I know for example, are operating in reaction mode out of fear. They believe to conflagrate tolerance of something with acceptance of something. Some Christians I know spend a lot of time judging who someone is by what they say or do. I suppose we all do this because our brains are classifying machines. The question then I guess is if you can separate and respect the person and not respect the belief? Can you agree to disagree and leave it at that or is society just a pendulum that is never at rest because everyone is judgy and having to prove someone wrong or themselves right? My thoughts are like a race. The runner who comes in first doesn't need to prove to everyone he's first, he just is. I've never seen a competition where the winner is trying to convince everyone else they won. Not that society is a competition, but dialogue can end up that way sometimes.
Not the point.
You are trying to create a double standard that is not there with AC/DC. The opposite is true. If a Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu want to display something religious in a public school Christians flip out.
I don't see the point of treating any public school as an indoctrination center. If you want to live under a government that is run on religion where it's public schools mix the two, Saudi Arabia and Iran do that quite well. Schools are not Mosques, Synagogues, Churches or Buddhist or Hindu Temples. There are over 360,000 houses of worship in America of all sects and all religions outside public schools. There is no need to treat a public school as a holy place.
But, if Christians insist, then they cannot bitch, nor have the right to bitch if others do the same. I take the position that it is better for all involved to leave religion at the public school door, and have children and family do that on their own time.