RE: Is tolerance intolerant?
December 11, 2018 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2018 at 11:39 am by Brian37.)
(December 11, 2018 at 11:15 am)tackattack Wrote: First, I'm not claiming I'm persecuted, I do sleep well at night. It hasn't always been so in my personal life, but that's irrelevant.
Second, I'm not offended by any point made here. I'm just trying to see the other perspective as valid.
Third, It's not specific to me and I'm not making it about me. I'm trying to make it about western society as a whole and gain some perspective.
To squash the whole minority crap it's pretty simple, the smallest minority is a minority of one.
To which I ask:
1. If I'm allowed to do X and it's not illegal or harmful to anyone
2. I am doing X in a public free place
3. What right do you as an individual to come along and tell me I can't do X because you don't agree with it?
*4.Especially given that you chose to be somewhere X is allowed and don't have to be there
fill in the blanks with sex, drugs, smoking, speaking, giving hugs, etc. You are either for freedoms, or for limiting them.
I'm trying to identify the mechanism (ie intolerance, self-aggrandization, nosy nellies, etc.) by which that happens.
Also, whether there is an alternative to seeking tolerance in a society such as equality, peace, isolation that would be better for society as a whole.
Holy generalizations Batman...
Um no, it is not a black or white issue of "You are either for freedoms, or limiting them".
Law in general is a guiding principle and courts are used to decide case by case. And not all laws have been moral, like denying women the right to vote, forcing blacks to sit at the back of the bus, much less owning slaves.
You can smoke sure, but I am all for regulating the marketing targeted at vulnerable segments such as kids or the poor. I'd love to see America do what Australia does with both tobacco and alcohol. They don't advertise either on TV, and they don't have corporate logos on their packs or cartons, they still sell them, but it is behind the counter in unmarked shelves so that kids are less likely to be tempted to pick up the habit. The keep even beer, just like liquor in separate stores, even wine is not sold in grocery stores. Again, they still sell it, but just minimize the exposure to to kids so they don't grow up with addictions. I defy you to show me how those regulations are a ban on those products? As I said, they still sell them.
You can own a sports car, but if you break the speed limit, sorry, you deserve a ticket.
Don't confuse regulations as being anti freedom.
And even with religion, if you are an adult, and want to be stupid and deny yourself medical care because Jesus, Yahweh or Allah told you not to, fine, be stupid. But no, if you have a kid who needs medical care and you as a parent deny it, and the kid gets sick or dies as a result, you deserve to be charged with neglect at a minimum.