1. If I'm allowed to do X and it's not illegal or harmful to anyone
2. I am doing X in a public free place
3. What right do you as an individual to come along and tell me I can't do X because you don't agree with it?
*4.Especially given that you chose to be somewhere X is allowed and don't have to be there
Yes there are generalizations. But you 2 failed to address where any of them are wrong or invalid. I see you moving closer to seeing a different perspective. I specifically stated in one if it's not illegal. I also pre-qualified the argument by stating we're leaving institutions and organizations out of it, it's a person to person thing. I think Benny hit the nail right on the head.
I oppose marketing and selling cigarettes to minors. As long as I can afford to smoke I will smoke. If they increase the tax 200% I might desire less to smoke and maybe decide to quit. That's my choice, just as it's my choice to smoke in designated areas.
For instance : ATL airport has smoking rooms still. I can go in there to smoke if I'd like to. Before a flight once, I noticed some ladies sitting in a row across from the entrance. I sat down to retrieve something from my bag. I overheard part of the conversation and stewed on it the entire flight. They were basically ranting about how they don't have to put up with smokers at other airports and she'd wish they'd just do away with it. Didn't they know smoking way bad. She had a mind to bar the door so they could all sit in their with their poisonous air. She had every right to have all those opinions. When I waled across the way and sat in the smoking are and made eye contact with her, she knew I had heard her and I got the nasty eye. She could have felt a lot of things in that moment, shame in expressing her options so vehemently, "oh there goes another one", but instead she doubled down on hatred and intolerance. I like what Chameleon said.
Someone once passed me to enter a restaurant, where I was smoking outside, because you can't smoke inside. I'm used to the fake coughs and dirty glares, but hey IDC, your side forced me to only have this area to smoke. They young lady went further though and actually told me "How rude, Don't you know those are bad for you?" I politely said to her fake smiling self, "So is telling someone how to live their life" and proceeded to hold the door open for her without the fake smile.
I'm just trying to figure out where things like shame, respect, understanding and compassion has gone in society. If you're in a free country and don't like something and can't tolerate it, then GTFO, you're in a free country free to do anything you WANT or LIKE to do. IF you don't WANT to go somewhere where they allow smoking, then go somewhere else. If I don't WANT to smoke for whatever reason, I'll stop. I think it bils down to most people just LIKE to Bitch about others and point out the differences instead of finding common ground.
2. I am doing X in a public free place
3. What right do you as an individual to come along and tell me I can't do X because you don't agree with it?
*4.Especially given that you chose to be somewhere X is allowed and don't have to be there
Yes there are generalizations. But you 2 failed to address where any of them are wrong or invalid. I see you moving closer to seeing a different perspective. I specifically stated in one if it's not illegal. I also pre-qualified the argument by stating we're leaving institutions and organizations out of it, it's a person to person thing. I think Benny hit the nail right on the head.
I oppose marketing and selling cigarettes to minors. As long as I can afford to smoke I will smoke. If they increase the tax 200% I might desire less to smoke and maybe decide to quit. That's my choice, just as it's my choice to smoke in designated areas.
For instance : ATL airport has smoking rooms still. I can go in there to smoke if I'd like to. Before a flight once, I noticed some ladies sitting in a row across from the entrance. I sat down to retrieve something from my bag. I overheard part of the conversation and stewed on it the entire flight. They were basically ranting about how they don't have to put up with smokers at other airports and she'd wish they'd just do away with it. Didn't they know smoking way bad. She had a mind to bar the door so they could all sit in their with their poisonous air. She had every right to have all those opinions. When I waled across the way and sat in the smoking are and made eye contact with her, she knew I had heard her and I got the nasty eye. She could have felt a lot of things in that moment, shame in expressing her options so vehemently, "oh there goes another one", but instead she doubled down on hatred and intolerance. I like what Chameleon said.
Someone once passed me to enter a restaurant, where I was smoking outside, because you can't smoke inside. I'm used to the fake coughs and dirty glares, but hey IDC, your side forced me to only have this area to smoke. They young lady went further though and actually told me "How rude, Don't you know those are bad for you?" I politely said to her fake smiling self, "So is telling someone how to live their life" and proceeded to hold the door open for her without the fake smile.
I'm just trying to figure out where things like shame, respect, understanding and compassion has gone in society. If you're in a free country and don't like something and can't tolerate it, then GTFO, you're in a free country free to do anything you WANT or LIKE to do. IF you don't WANT to go somewhere where they allow smoking, then go somewhere else. If I don't WANT to smoke for whatever reason, I'll stop. I think it bils down to most people just LIKE to Bitch about others and point out the differences instead of finding common ground.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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