RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 30, 2011 at 12:46 pm
(This post was last modified: September 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm by Shell B.)
(September 30, 2011 at 3:12 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Shell: sometimes when everyone is throwing rocks and you're engaged solely in throwing rocks back, as the conversations with Zaki have all sadly devolved into, such is the lack of actual opposition here, genuine questions like yours tried to be, with just the smallest of insults added for good measure, tend to become collateral damage.
Excuse me, Frodo. Here is my original post to Zaki. Please tell me where I insulted him. I'm sorry. I'm simply getting a little peeved at being a ventriloquist dummy.
(September 29, 2011 at 2:54 pm)Shell B Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 4:31 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: Of-course, if you could offer conclusive proof for His non-existence that would settle the matter. But you can't, can you?
It's impossible to offer conclusive proof for the nonexistence of something. For example, a colony of unicorns could live in a galaxy far, far away and we would have no way of knowing. Duh.
Not that it matters, as you can't offer conclusive proof of his existence can you? The point is, if you claim god exists, you have to prove it. If you don't believe other people's assertions that god exists, you have nothing to prove.
(September 29, 2011 at 6:22 am)Zaki Aminu Wrote: There is a hierachy in Existence. Some things are absolutely dependent for their existence on others.
As far as I can tell, that is true of all things. This is a symbiotic -- if you'll pardon me using the term rather loosely -- universe. So, basically, everything is less than real, based on your beliefs. I wish you could name one thing that did not rely on anything else for its very existence. I might just be drawing a blank. However, if you cannot, then this ultimate reality is just a construct of an overactive, but shortsighted imagination. Not that I have a prejudice against such things. Imagine away, Zaki.
If you mean everyone is disagreeing with him when you say, "Everyone is throwing rocks." there is hardly anything I can do about it. If Zaki cannot handle opposition gracefully, he has to grow as a person or leave, which is unfortunate, but what are you going to do? I can't hold the hand of every newb here, Frodo. There are more and more of them and I swear they are trolling more often than not. I don't have time to tell Zaki how to handle himself. As for everyone else, they know the rules here.
Quote:I'm sure if everyone stopped kicking the heretic for a moment, and we let him breathe, he could respond nicely to you. As the mob is in full swing with this one already, I don't see them letting up.
Me I'm just sad at the lack of actual resistance we have here.
You know, in other forums, this "mob" nonsense is never mentioned. Why? Because people are not silly enough to forget to count how many people one newbie actually is. Any number of people opposing a newbs assertions is going to read like a "mob." Regulars have every right to respond and I can not limit them by a certain number. When I am a newb at a forum, I try not to insult everyone by putting words in their mouths the moment I get there. Oddly enough, the mob typically dissipates after welcoming me. Interesting how that works.
Zaki Wrote:Oh dear! I've upset you, haven't I?
No, but you have lost all credibility with me. Your latest post does nothing to help that.
Zaki)Look, this is easily cleared up: Are you now agreeing that the American continent [i Wrote:actually already existed BEFORE Europeans even knew about its existence?[/i] And that belief or non-belief in its existence by Europeans was utterly irrelevant with regard to whether it actually existed BEFORE its discovery by Europeans or not? A simple yes or no will do - but take your time.
Actually, a yes or no won't do. We were not even discussing a continent, were we? You are not even adept at dodging questions and putting words in people's mouths. Do not continue to misquote people.
