(December 13, 2018 at 11:16 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm not trying to deport the assholes. That's the difference of MO between me and assholes, and tolerance doesn't mean that you can't point out that a person is an asshole.
We've already been over this. You're repeating the wambulance complaint, fielding a charge of hypocrisy...where none exists in the first place, lol.
-aaaaaaaaaaand now we're onto reverse discrimination of the funhouse mirror variety.
I'm not trying to repeat or restate anything. I agree with your stated dictionary definition of tolerance. I was pointing out that in practical application of tolerance starting off with intolerance is self defeating. I'm not saying kumbaya circles but it's the very definition of closed-mindedness. And it causes the tolerance/intolerance dilemma to implode.
Pointing out a person is an asshole, because of their dress, look, nationality or labeled belief on a forum sign up sheet is being-closed minded and intolerant.
Pointing out a person is an asshole based on their actions, words and history is a value based judgement.
The later doesn't invalidate the person, just the views expressed.
If we're to come to an equanimity in our pluralistic society applying basic human decency and understanding are better than just applying tolerance. You've said little to change my mind on that, but I'm still open.
Side note, I don't believe in reverse discrimination any more than I believe in reverse racism.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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