(December 14, 2018 at 3:12 pm)Mathilda Wrote:(December 14, 2018 at 1:49 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Can you reproduce artifcial fear that cockroaches feel in a computer? Brain of cockroach is much simpler than modern supercomputers.
Yes.
Be careful. I am sure our theist friend here will twist what you are saying.
We can produce false perceptions, sure. Roach bait works like that. Create chemicals and smells that attract them. But even with modern transportation, we can program jets to detect dangers, and now even auto assist with breaking and even lane changes to avoid crashes.
Our theist friend here is looking for an excuse to say, "computers exist, so therefor some super computer, God, created us."
The problem is for them, not only the age of the universe, the amount of mass extinctions in the history of evolution, but the problem of infinite regress.
I hate even the si fi fans who try to skip old bronze age deity claims, but still insist we are merely products in a giant "simulation" or "program".
That too suffers the same flaw of infinite regress. If we have a creator "God, or super program" then what created that program, and what created that, ect ect ect.
It makes much more sense to me to think of "all this" as merely a fluctuation between states of on and off, a cycle, just like seasons changing. I don't see any super cognition, or super computer needed for nature or the universe to occur.
Yes we can "simulate" as humans with computers and do. But when one considers the steps between a mere wave function, to a particle, to an atom, to an organism, at that point you are in a macro state, even if QM leads to that state.
Point is, be there something or nothing prior to this universe, it is absurd to gap fill with what amounts to a projection of our own human qualities in comic book super natural form.
It makes much more sense to me that consciousness is not a super natural product, but a natural finite blip in a giant ongoing weather pattern.
