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KAFIR
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RE: KAFIR
(December 19, 2018 at 10:12 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:atheist
/ˈeɪθɪɪst/
noun
noun: atheist; plural noun: atheists
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
"he is a committed atheist"
synonyms:
non-believer, non-theist, disbeliever, unbeliever, heretic, sceptic, doubter, doubting Thomas, agnostic, infidel, irreligious person, heathen, pagan, freethinker, libertine, nihilist; More

But nothing there says that atheists 'literally...don't believe in anything', which was your contention.
My very obvious context was speaking about the "religious" state; you can see this sentence for example from the OP:
Quote:AtlasS33 Said:
So when I call somebody "Kafir"; I am simply using an Arabic translation for the English word "unbeliever". Actually; most members on this forum are "Kuffar" or "Non-believers"; we can even translate its name to "Kafir Forum". It's a forum made and built by Kafir members who don't believe in God.
So; are you a "believer" in the existence of God or not? If you aren't a believer, or you rejected the message of Islam, you are an "unbeliever", or a "Kaffir".
How can anybody get around a bold statement like that?

Quote:
Quote: Wrote:AKA you're a Kaffir.

You give the impression (and I sincerely hope I'm wrong about this) that you know the current meaning of 'kaffir' but are using the pretense of the historical meaning to give yourself a pass.  This is like people who contend that 'nigger' isn't a vile, hateful word because it once meant 'Negro'.

I'm sticking to my OP; the evidence you provide is not sufficient to convince me.

(December 19, 2018 at 10:37 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(December 19, 2018 at 10:12 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But nothing there says that atheists 'literally...don't believe in anything', which was your contention.
My very obvious context was speaking about the "religious" state; you can see this sentence for example from the OP:
Quote:AtlasS33 Said:
So when I call somebody "Kafir"; I am simply using an Arabic translation for the English word "unbeliever". Actually; most members on this forum are "Kuffar" or "Non-believers"; we can even translate its name to "Kafir Forum". It's a forum made and built by Kafir members who don't believe in God.
So; are you a "believer" in the existence of God or not? If you aren't a believer, or you rejected the message of Islam, you are an "unbeliever", or a "Kaffir".
How can anybody get around a bold statement like that?

Quote:You give the impression (and I sincerely hope I'm wrong about this) that you know the current meaning of 'kaffir' but are using the pretense of the historical meaning to give yourself a pass.  This is like people who contend that 'nigger' isn't a vile, hateful word because it once meant 'Negro'.

I'm sticking to my OP; the evidence you provide is not sufficient to convince me.

This sentence is wrong.
It is more accurate to remove it.
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Messages In This Thread
KAFIR - by WinterHold - December 19, 2018 at 8:56 am
RE: KAFIR - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 19, 2018 at 9:21 am
RE: KAFIR - by WinterHold - December 19, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: KAFIR - by Brian37 - December 20, 2018 at 7:27 am
RE: KAFIR - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 19, 2018 at 9:42 am
RE: KAFIR - by WinterHold - December 19, 2018 at 9:47 am
RE: KAFIR - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 19, 2018 at 9:49 am
RE: KAFIR - by WinterHold - December 19, 2018 at 10:00 am
RE: KAFIR - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 20, 2018 at 3:09 am
RE: KAFIR - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 19, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: KAFIR - by WinterHold - December 19, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: KAFIR - by Maketakunai - December 20, 2018 at 2:50 am
RE: KAFIR - by onlinebiker - December 19, 2018 at 10:32 am
RE: KAFIR - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 19, 2018 at 10:41 am
RE: KAFIR - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 11:00 am
RE: KAFIR - by WinterHold - December 21, 2018 at 2:30 am
RE: KAFIR - by Angrboda - December 21, 2018 at 8:47 am
RE: KAFIR - by WinterHold - December 21, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: KAFIR - by Deesse23 - December 21, 2018 at 4:46 pm
RE: KAFIR - by Brian37 - December 21, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: KAFIR - by Cato - December 19, 2018 at 11:02 am
RE: KAFIR - by Mister Agenda - December 21, 2018 at 10:45 am



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