RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 20, 2018 at 6:35 pm
(This post was last modified: December 20, 2018 at 6:49 pm by CDF47.)
(December 19, 2018 at 1:51 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:(December 19, 2018 at 1:45 am)CDF47 Wrote: That is not true.
What, CDF, what isn't true? That you had an inexplicable reaction to the mundane observations of seminary scholarship? That this reaction was only made explicable by your later stating a misapprehension about what had been said? That the narrator of the"prophetic" bits of daniel wasn't cheifly concerned with the maccabean revolt? That the narrator made understandable mistakes with respect to a past he was unaware of and a future he would not see? That some random jewish narrator getting something wrong wouldn't make your religion, which is not judaism, a myth?
What....? Are you capable of articulating exactly the thing you object to, or would you like to run with "The thing no one said is not true!"................
Daniel is not a myth. It's an historical account and written as such. It is not written like a novel of a myth, it is literal and it happened. There were no mistakes.
(December 19, 2018 at 1:58 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:(December 19, 2018 at 1:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: Evil exists based on the devil's rebellion to God. That is when the knowledge of good and evil must have been known to someone other than God.
*Nods* Yeah, I get that about your system.
The problem you have is that:
1) Your diety is the biggest of all things. It's the creator of all things. It's the knower of all things.
2) This leads to the issue of your diety first knowing what it's going to do. Do said things anyway. Said created things then running off and doing the things they were created to do.
So... you diety created the evil AND lets it run around doing its evil things.
Is a problem, don't cha think?
Heck, pretty sure the Euthyphro's dilema sums up your problem. Or the more, modern, parahprasing at least.
At least with Odin... they can blame Loki being micheivieous and things going all ploin shaped from there. Same with most other pantheons. All the good diety's are runnning around trying to stop/thwart the evil dietys. Well... maybe the other way around, YMMV.
Not at work.
The Lord is totally holy, good, and just. He hates evil. Evil is what Satan did when he rebelled from God.
(December 20, 2018 at 2:46 am)Wololo Wrote:(December 19, 2018 at 1:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: Evil exists based on the devil's rebellion to God. That is when the knowledge of good and evil must have been known to someone other than God.
Well considering that your god is supposed to be all powerful, Satan's rebellion can only be in existence because god wants wills it to be. If god wanted to he could destroy the rebellion without breaking a sweat.
So the problem of evil rebounds back on god.
He is going to end the rebellion without breaking a sweat. Just on His time. 1000 days to the Lord is like 1 day. It's nothing to Him. It is only temporary. Evil is running its course.
(December 20, 2018 at 3:03 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:(December 19, 2018 at 1:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: Evil exists based on the devil's rebellion to God. That is when the knowledge of good and evil must have been known to someone other than God.
Riiiight.
But who created said devil, hmmmm?
Bit of'a problem fer Monothists, in'it Guv?
Not at work.
The Lord is punishing sin. It is only temporary for Him as evil runs its course. The Lord created the devil but did not force him to rebel. He rebelled on his own command.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
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Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8