(December 21, 2018 at 12:45 am)bennyboy Wrote:(December 20, 2018 at 8:42 pm)Grandizer Wrote: White privilege is when you think the problems black people face are more about lack of income and education than about black people being targets of systemic racism.
You have to find specific cases, and then seek to remedy them.
And remedy the root cause as well, when necessary and possible.
Quote:For example, white police sometimes shoot black civilians. I'm not a police officer, and I do not need to be involved in any redress. "White people" didn't shoot those black kids-- it was a small number of individuals-- and they need to be fired, jailed and sued for every penny they have, or ever will.
We also need to address why it is that it is easier for police officers to shoot unarmed black civilians than those who happen to be white. Your solution doesn't take that into consideration.
Quote:The same goes for schools. Just because a school doesn't have a lot of black students doesn't mean it's racist toward black students. At worst, it means that the criteria in place for acceptance are too narrow.
Institutional racism/discrimination nowadays is not overt and/or direct, but more on the subtle, indirect, and unconscious/subconscious side. So a good question to ask in this hypothetical/real scenario is why it is that the criteria set in place are too narrow.
Quote:Let me ask you a simple question-- if a white student and black student apply for a spot, and the white student has better grades and better SAT scores, how would you determine whether a black student should be given the spot?
Maybe by not making it only about scores/grades, and by understanding that SAT scores specifically tend to indicate privilege rather than aptitude when it comes to black vs. white groups. How about making sure admissions tests are as culture-fair as possible first?
Quote:What specific, quantifiable criteria would you put in place? +10 points if you identify as "black?"
It's not only about specific, quantifiable criteria, and never has been only about that. A good part of the admission process is, and should be, subjective and ideally individualized.
Quote:What about if you have one white parent? 3 white grandparents? What if you are Rachel Dolezal, and aren't black at all, but identify with black culture as you see it?
Depends on various factors here, such as how is the individual person being perceived as societally speaking.
Quote:It's nice to want to help a group you think is disenfranchised or unjustly held back. But how, exactly, would you as a school administrator decide which students to accept or reject? How do you weight color against grades, or family income against hard work spent studying?
Look at the stats, acknowledge the inequality that is observed and be honest about what the factors are that are leading to this, then address accordingly.