RE: Is tolerance intolerant?
December 25, 2018 at 8:51 am
(This post was last modified: December 25, 2018 at 8:56 am by GrandizerII.)
(December 25, 2018 at 1:03 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:(December 20, 2018 at 8:42 pm)Grandizer Wrote: White privilege is when you think the problems black people face are more about lack of income and education than about black people being targets of systemic racism.
This is a bit poorly worded: bear in mind that the low income and education are, in the case of black people, inextricably linked to the systemic racism they faced in the past. After the 13th Amendment freed the slaves, we had to create schools for them, since we figured out that laws that forbade them from learning to read were kind of shitty. White society at large didn't want to deal with them more than necessary, so they more or less ended with the table scraps of the White educational system. And, of course, due to the hostility of the society at large, they were ostracised and discriminated against, which, to say the least, does not bode well for getting a high-paying job. Fortunately, things have started to change, thanks to the Civil Rights movement, and more Black people are coming out of the traps that the white supremacist power structures laid out for them, rising above it all, but, of course, it's not happening fast enough, and because of that, they end up falling prey to the same old shit. For them, surprisingly little has changed. Schools with more black people are still woefully under-equipped and actually getting a good job is a lot harder for black people, even without legally sanctioned racial discrimination, and this leads to the same systems that kept them down getting reinforced. After all, to the untrained eye, "hey, we've got integrated schools, we don't force them to make do with hand-me-down stuff from white schools (at least not by law), and now we've had a black president. What the fuck is wrong with these black people who still can't rise above it all? Why are you hitting yourself, Black America? Stop hitting yourself, Black America! Stop hitting yourself!"
It's not really that much of an either/or, like your wording implied. It would be more accurate to say "White privilege is when you think the lack of income and education that many black people have to live with has nothing to do with black people being targets of systemic racism."
Just look at bennyboy's response to your post, and you will see why I worded it the way I did. He really doesn't think it has anything to do with systemic discrimination, and blames black people for the situation they're in.
Note that while I will admit it wasn't the best wording what I said, I was still careful enough to include the key word "more", thus implying that it wasn't an either/or situation but that systemic racism is something to be emphasized here.