(December 30, 2018 at 8:02 pm)Amarok Wrote:(December 30, 2018 at 8:40 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Fair enough, but irrelevant to the conversation. We're defining "real American."
I imagine real america has citizens in it
(December 30, 2018 at 9:14 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Which is what those Native Americans wouldn't have said, because it was a foreign concept to them. They viewed the land much differently, especially in the context of land ownership. Needless to say, much of it was unfortunate.Doesn't mean the land grabbers had to come along and take it all
(December 30, 2018 at 9:14 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Which is what those Native Americans wouldn't have said, because it was a foreign concept to them. They viewed the land much differently, especially in the context of land ownership. Needless to say, much of it was unfortunate.Doesn't mean the land grabbers had to come along and take it all
They didn't have to. As I said, it was unfortunate. Many of the Native Americans seen it as being advantageous, but the settlers had more of a "deal is a deal" approach without understanding the context of how nature was viewed. When it became obvious that land ownership wasn't being view mutually it was a false assumption that the Native Americans were trying to violate the agreement, which of course turned to violence. I don't think any sane person who cares about morality would disagree that the Native Americans got mucked over in all of it.