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Sherrif Clarke
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RE: Sherrif Clarke
(January 2, 2019 at 5:47 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(January 2, 2019 at 5:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No one is arguing that rape is a bad thing, so maybe you could stuff your little lecture on that and let's get back to Sheriff Clarke.

NOTHING you just said applies to Clarke.  He ran what was, by all accounts, a medieval prison.  But let's stick to the rape case.  He had to know his sheriff's department was being sued.  There is no way he could not have known - the victim launched her lawsuit in 2013, Clarke didn't resign as sheriff until 2017.  In the intervening years, there were numerous complaints filed (pregnant inmates being denied care, women shackled during childbirth, a mentally disabled inmate dying after being denied water for a week, a infant born in the jail died) and there is no evidence that Clarke showed the least inclination to address these issues, the treatment of inmates, or the conditions at his jail.

To be clear, no one is accusing the sheriff of personally committing these atrocities.  But being sheriff means the decent treatment of inmates (i.e., providing medical care and not letting them die) was his responsibility.

He's a monster.

Boru

Maybe. Or he was supervising monsters.

I don't want to downplay this because of "rape" being involved, but sometimes  you can end up working with people who aren't quite what we had hoped they would be.  If Clarke was directly at fault, I also don't want to suggest something else.  What I'm getting at is how did he know, or how was he supposed to know?  If he did know, then to what degree did he have knowledge of who and to whom the problems were directed at?  I'm certainly not saying he's innocent, because he may not be, but to what extent could he have acted based on what was reasonably known (or knowable) to him?  He could be a "monster" but I won't assume he is until I know more.  If he is, then bring on the torches. Smile

How was he supposed to know?  He was being SUED, fer chrissakes. Please outline for me the conditions under which you would be sued and not know about it. FWIW, I've been sued more than once, and it's a pretty hard thing not to notice.

It was his fucking job to know what was going on.  We aren't taking about a single incident, but a pattern of abuse and neglect that went on for years. ON HIS WATCH.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Sherrif Clarke - by ResoluteBaptist - December 28, 2018 at 12:18 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 12:37 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Dmitry1983 - December 28, 2018 at 4:13 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by LadyForCamus - December 28, 2018 at 12:44 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 28, 2018 at 1:37 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by onlinebiker - December 28, 2018 at 2:54 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 6:32 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 6:47 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:04 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by brewer - December 28, 2018 at 8:13 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Pat Mustard - December 28, 2018 at 8:29 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 8:37 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 8:43 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by unfogged - December 28, 2018 at 9:13 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Huggy Bear - December 28, 2018 at 9:14 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 9:29 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 6:05 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 7:17 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 8:23 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:35 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:39 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Angrboda - December 29, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 10:08 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 10:11 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mister Agenda - December 28, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mister Agenda - January 2, 2019 at 11:12 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 2, 2019 at 2:09 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2019 at 2:18 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 2, 2019 at 2:33 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2019 at 3:56 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 2, 2019 at 5:26 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2019 at 5:38 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 2, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2019 at 5:50 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 2, 2019 at 6:12 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2019 at 8:32 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 2, 2019 at 9:29 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mister Agenda - January 5, 2019 at 8:53 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 5, 2019 at 2:15 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mister Agenda - January 7, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 7, 2019 at 9:29 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mister Agenda - January 11, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 11, 2019 at 6:03 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mister Agenda - January 14, 2019 at 3:39 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 14, 2019 at 4:19 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 11:19 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 12:17 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 1:37 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mr.Obvious - December 28, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mermaid - December 28, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Jackalope - December 28, 2018 at 6:09 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:18 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by ResoluteBaptist - December 29, 2018 at 3:03 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by onlinebiker - December 29, 2018 at 4:46 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Pat Mustard - December 29, 2018 at 9:47 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 29, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2018 at 8:25 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - December 29, 2018 at 4:21 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 29, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - December 30, 2018 at 2:00 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 2:16 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - December 30, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 8:40 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2018 at 8:50 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 8:51 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2018 at 8:54 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 8:58 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2018 at 8:59 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 9:14 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - December 30, 2018 at 8:02 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 8:49 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Pat Mustard - December 31, 2018 at 4:00 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 31, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2018 at 4:30 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by brewer - December 29, 2018 at 10:15 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Mermaid - December 29, 2018 at 10:31 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Athene - December 29, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Natachan - December 31, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by adey67 - December 31, 2018 at 2:27 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Aliza - December 31, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by adey67 - December 31, 2018 at 3:55 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Huggy Bear - January 2, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2019 at 4:47 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2019 at 5:32 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 3, 2019 at 1:35 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 3, 2019 at 1:38 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 3, 2019 at 1:43 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 3, 2019 at 1:51 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 3, 2019 at 2:23 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 3, 2019 at 2:30 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 3, 2019 at 2:46 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 3, 2019 at 10:27 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 3, 2019 at 1:07 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 3, 2019 at 6:46 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Angrboda - January 3, 2019 at 9:37 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 3, 2019 at 8:16 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 3, 2019 at 9:14 pm
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 4, 2019 at 3:47 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 4, 2019 at 4:45 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 4, 2019 at 4:52 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 4, 2019 at 5:46 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by Amarok - January 4, 2019 at 5:50 am
RE: Sherrif Clarke - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2019 at 2:17 am



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