Bonesaw Wielding Gog and Magog

[Brian37]

There is no "the west" in general. But its nice to know you are so full of ...stereotypes and generalisations. That also applies to your "we" and "you" attitude. Congratulations to being one of the main problems of today but not having a single clue about it at all.

It's not me who issues passports and raise flags to differentiate between "us" and "them".
It's the "western regimes" that do that.

WWI:
was not triggered by "the west", but from a central european perspective by the "crazy balcanese", an area that was a warmongering shithole area since the fucking time of the roman empire. But do we always whine about "bad, bad balcanese"? Nope, because its silly, because its a historically difficult region. Life and history is not as easy as you seem to think it is. So please stop your silly whining as well if you may.

How do you see me believing what you say, when you use the same broken record about "the shitty warmongering area being the cause of the war"?

You want me to blame earth instead of people?
Just like today: America burnt Iraq to crisp, then kept on screaming that it's the fault of the "land".
How come?

The fault is your intervention. Don't you realize that wherever the western regimes set foot, destructive world wars come following them?

Atlass, we would love nothing more than to leave the middle east entirely. But sorry, with Sunnis and Shiites, Saudi Arabia and Iran, and Israel at each other's throats. Maybe it would be better if both Saudi Arabia and Iran to give up on their religious run governments.  Europe went through their Christian version during the Dark Ages, and even in America because of religious bullshit, even we treated Native Americans and blacks and women like shit.

None of what I said means America gets everything right. But you are over simplifying a complex region full of many different sects and powers that are still unfortunately stuck in a dark age religious past, including too many Israelis.

The three religions have been fighting over that region for centuries. Maybe Muslims and Jews and Christians need to face the fact religion is a very easy way for powers to get their respective societies to die in these wars.

And yes Atlass, land is fought over, not just for religious reasons, but for control over resources. Other species fight for control over resources too. Mammals like elephants, and lions, especially males, can be very territorial. Humans are no different.