On the subject of Hell and Salvation

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Where you went wrong, bolding by me.

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I'd like to point something out. There are hundreds of millions, if not more, of people around the world who will Never, Ever discover Jesus or the Christian faith, and yet STILL be sentenced to eternal torment for not believing in something they've never even heard of according to Christians. WTF? HOW CAN PEOPLE JUSTIFY THAT???

I got off the phone with a family friend yesterday and it turns out that she thinks Christianity (Heaven, Hell, Bible) is bullshit too. I brought this up and she actually AGREED with me.

Easy. According to the Christianity I once held to, you're condemned to hell anyway, regardless of whether you've heard of Jesus or not (because it's sin, not mere lack of belief in Jesus, that puts you under divine condemnation). Only Jesus saves.

This clearly is a sociopathic way of thinking, but it's the most logically consistent answer to the question, given the Bible says stuff about how Jesus is the only Way and all that.

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" For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus "-Rom 2
That plus sin being a choice or act of volition, it requires reason and intent to sin
And because of the difficulty of that, coupled with ...
"How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?" -Rom. 10
It evidences the reason why we share an easy way out of ignorance and are called to share God.

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I see none who have responded to this thread have read the Bible with the intent to understand what God has said on this subject, Grandy got somewhat close but still missed the mark throwing hand grenades doesn't count in a discussion, close isn't being correct. Read the Bible and find out what it says before you condemn something, this sbject has been discussed many times over the years and the answer has been provided, I know because I'm one of those who has given the answer.

GC

Just out of curiousity GC, what is your stance on those who were previously “saved” but have since become an atheist/rescinded their belief?

My parents believe I’m still saved, but have simply lost my way—i.e. I still get a ticket to heaven.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say you were never saved. I actually believe that once saved, always saved. I could very well see you in Heaven one day. Your salvation isn't dependent on you.

I know that my opinion wasn't asked, sorry if it upsets anyone, that's not the intent.