(January 22, 2019 at 5:55 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(January 22, 2019 at 5:32 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You mean the convenience of being the person-owner..not some economic benefit to society or humanity, necessitated i by a dire situation.
The person-owner, and his tribe that he’s contributing to, with no real concern for the greater society or humanity as a whole.
Quote:God deferred to simple human greed?
God didn’t defer to anything.
Quote:I'm wondering why..and how you maintain the credibility of magic book after laying out your objection.
I never appealed to the Bible in this argument about morality, so I never appealed to its credibility in this area either.
Quote:Then you can answer the other potentiality I included. That some portion of magic book conforms to a meaningfully objective morality..rather than a subjective or relative morality...how to distinguish between cases...and from above...how we maintain the credibility of magic book after having laid out those objections.
What is meaningful objective morality?
Is there an external reality called the Good, that places moral obligations on us, tells us how we ought to behave and live? That I ought serve it, over my own self interest?
In order for morality to be objective, it’s requires a reality independent of ourselves, that contains moral values, and moral aims and purposes. Not some cold disinterested reality, but one that’s concerned about our moral lives.
Is that what you believe? Like I do. If not than your moral realism is in doubt.
Um no, my morality is not in doubt, nor is that of any sane empathetic human.
It simply bothers theists that an atheist doesn't need a sky hero in order to figure out right from wrong.
Hurting others is bad, helping others is good. No magic, no super cognition needed to come to that conclusion.