RE: Morality
January 23, 2019 at 12:00 am
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2019 at 12:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 22, 2019 at 7:20 pm)Acrobat Wrote:Or..you know, you could just ask, lol. Natural realist.
(January 22, 2019 at 6:34 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Why would it need to contain aims or purposes? We supply those handily.
Ah my suspicions that your just a confused relativist, appears to be true.
Quote:So it’s not the moral facts and values, that exist independently of “we” that reveal moral aims? But “we” do? So moral aims are a human construct?Do you require my assistance to have this argument with yourself? Yes, moral aims are a human construct..regardless of whether moral facts of a matter exist. A fact just is, and this would be equally true of any potential moral fact. Aims are the product of intentional moral agents..like ourselves. We may attempt to construct our aims with rference to those facts (and we may not) but throughout all of this it;s very clear that the moral fact is not the aim, but the evaluative metric of any potential or hypothetical aims.
Quote:If moral values and facts exist independently of us, then they define our moral aims, not us. If you disagree you should rethink your supposed moral realism.If moral facts exist independently of us, then moral facts exist independently of us. They do not define our aims on sheer account of their existence. No more so than the sheer existence of Total Drama Island compels me to watch it with my daughters.
Quote:If a rock was telling me that I ought to do good, wouldn’t it be safe to say it’s interested in my moral life? If there’s a reality external to us human beings, in which moral facts and values exist, revealing that we should live good lives, as moral realism suggests, wouldn’t you say it’s interested in my moral life?Are you a rock? No? Then good....? No, I wouldn't say that anything that lacks interest or even the means to be interested is interested in us, or in you. Mostly because I'm sane..and I know that the universe isn't watching me pee, counting the amount of times I shake my dick in various expressions of contentment and disappointment.
Quote:The rock telling me I ought to do good, sounds like a little god doesn’t it?You tell me? Do rocks make moral suggestions to you?
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