RE: Ask the Christian
October 4, 2011 at 12:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2011 at 12:24 pm by downbeatplumb.)
Christians:
Defending the indefencible since 300Ad
That wasn't my claim, and this has nothing to do with the argument. I am demonstrating that there are things we believe without sufficient evidence, such as:
There is a world external to my mind
There are minds other than my own
Another evidence would be the reliability of my memory. There is no way for me to prove that the Universe wasn't created 5 minutes ago and all of my memories are false. I just choose to believe that my memories are reliable.
Here is some reading material for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_proble...sciousness
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Ah but I've done this dance before and the opening steps look very familiar.
I remain unconvinced by the dualist arguments.
Defending the indefencible since 300Ad
(October 3, 2011 at 5:58 pm)lucent Wrote: Oh fuck we're not doing the old 'the mind is evidence for the supernatural' thing again.
Some people believe without any real reason to that the something called the mind exists apart from the brain.
What you percive as the mind is just the brain what the brain does, in short the 'mind' is almost certainly brain processes.
The effects of the brain mind link can be readily shown because changes to he brain change the 'mind' things like drugs, injury, discease or just plain tiredness can cause people to act in different ways, this shows that the physical link between what we think of as ourselves and the brain are real.
If you are positing that there is some non-physical element involved, then you have a mountain to climb trying to prove it.
Others have tried and all have failed.
That wasn't my claim, and this has nothing to do with the argument. I am demonstrating that there are things we believe without sufficient evidence, such as:
There is a world external to my mind
There are minds other than my own
Another evidence would be the reliability of my memory. There is no way for me to prove that the Universe wasn't created 5 minutes ago and all of my memories are false. I just choose to believe that my memories are reliable.
Here is some reading material for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_proble...sciousness
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Ah but I've done this dance before and the opening steps look very familiar.
I remain unconvinced by the dualist arguments.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.


