(February 9, 2019 at 1:42 am)Godscreated Wrote:(February 8, 2019 at 9:43 pm)Fireball Wrote: It's people like you who make xtianity look worse. Coming in and preaching when you KNOW that the person affected is an atheist. Have you NO shame!?
He's the one spouting out verses like he knows something, I on the other hand corrected his mistaken understanding of the scriptures. No I am not ashamed of spreading the word of God and will gladly do it here and everywhere else.
GC
(February 8, 2019 at 4:51 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Here is another translation which suggests the children were killed.
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
And here also you appear to not be connecting the curse with the bear attack. Which I must say would be my position as well, curses work just as well as prayers i.e. not at all.
You used the word "suggests" which means that you have doubts. I have none, the boys did not die, the verses are proof of that, if they had the verses would have said they were killed. The curse is plainly applied in my response, you are grabbing at straws.
Regarding my use of the word "suggests" I am always open to the (extremely unlikely) possibility that I am wrong. It is a much more healthy way to view facts, as something could come along and upset what you believe to be true.
However theists do not have that luxury, they have to believe really really, hard absolutely utter non-sense.
The bible quotes do not say the boys survived the mauling by the bear and showed you a translation that included the phrase "to pieces". If someone is described as being in pieces the expectation is that they died either immediately or in the near future, especially at a time when the most advanced medicine they had was hoping everything would be ok.
Interestingly if one bible translation implies death and another does not then this means that the bible is prone to mistranslation over time which throws every aspect of the religion into doubt.
And also in this story god uses what is essentially a prayer as an offensive weapon. But lets look at the logistics here. There were two bears in the immediate vicinity of the children at that moment. If a bear is close then a bear attack is quite likely so instead of saying he cursed them and a bear attacked you could just say a bear attacked and the curse be zero to do with it.
Correlation does not imply causation.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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