RE: Are you responsible?
February 17, 2019 at 4:34 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2019 at 4:49 pm by Brian37.)
(February 17, 2019 at 4:04 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Nice late edit.
Death by cat isn't a thing for you to get riled up about?
(February 17, 2019 at 4:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Nice back peddling.
No, you SAID I was happy about it. Dont fucking back peddle now.
When I say I am not happy about firearm violence, I FUCKING MEAN IT, and to call it "jerking off" IS FUCKING BULLSHIT.
You know what matters more, or should matter more to you, if you agree firearm violence should be reduced? Not the person stating the obvious, but more people saying the same thing.
Do you not understand that you are took a thread that wasn't about guns and made it about guns...like you are known to do. You need a platform to rant and rave about and when one doesn't present itself when you need the release, you create it or warp it to work for you. Yeah...you're jerking off.
Yes it was, and NO I am NOT being paranoid.
And I have been at debate online almost every day since 02 and just on religion alone, I see this tactic all the time. Like playing chess, see the pattern enough you know what the person is doing.
A person will start a topic, and when they see they are losing, will go elsewhere and start another post which ultimately is nothing more than a distraction to justify the original post.
Not just on the issue of firearms.
Theists will start a post, then when they see they are losing, create another post trying to make it look unrelated, when really what they are doing is trying to create a backdoor justification for their ultimate goal.
"Responsable" was the word OLB used in the title of the thread.
He wants us to agree, that if someone steals your car and commits a crime with it, you should not be held responsible.
It is the same argument even if he was talking about firearms.
Same dodge I see theists use with "free will".
They'll start a thread about God, claim it's not God's fault. Then when you explain to them you have to prove the god exists first, they run away, and start another thread elsewhere in an attempt to avoid the fact that God is a bad starting point.
"It's not the car's fault". "It's not the car owner's fault"
Car or guns, his logic is bad.
But his real reason is to convince himself if he can argue that car owners are not responsible for their cars being stolen, he thinks he can apply the same logic to firearms.
But if you want me to tick to cars and the question is is it your fault if it gets stolen? No.
Is it your fault you left your keys in the car yes. Just like if you leave your gun where your kid can get to it, and they shoot themselves, you didn't pull the trigger, but the kid is still dead.
My point is leaving your keys in your car, and having it stolen, is far less likely to end in mass death.
