Are you responsible?

[Brian37]

i never said I was Ralf Nader. I only agree with his raising his voice.

Cars are safer now because of his raising his voice. There is no law mandating I be as famous as Nader to agree with him to say something is there?

Raising ones voice is how you start conversations that bring awareness to problems that need to be solved.

And in this analogy, you're the one who's raising their voice and starting conversations that bring awareness?

What fucking planet do you live on?

Holy shit.

So America does not have a firearm violence problem?

The thread was about theft of a car. 

I agree with the argument it is not the owners fault if your car gets stolen. 

But AGAIN, cars have improved in safety, and anti theft technology. My point is no product should be immune from scrutiny or improvement on safety.

It is not the owner's fault or the car's fault it got stolen. But the makers see patterns in accidents and theft, and even have recalls when their products are deemed unsafe.

I don't care if we are talking about cars or guns. I see nothing wrong one bit, with saying an industry, regardless of the product it sells, as much responsibility as to what they put out, as the user. 

Trying to make public safety a case by case issue, is short term, but long term, when you have too many problems WITH ANY PRODUCT, you cant simply blame it on the buyer.

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And in this analogy, you're the one who's raising their voice and starting conversations that bring awareness?

What fucking planet do you live on?

Holy shit.

He brings awareness of gun violence by making people want to shoot him.

Thank you for proving my point. If you really want to shoot me, you are making my argument for me.