(February 18, 2019 at 8:49 pm)Shell B Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 5:34 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Accusing people of bait and switch is a troll tactic. Trolls think they have seen bait and switch a lot because they count it as a hit every time they accuse someone of it, and never acknowledge their misses (misses are about 100%). So if you've seen this tactic a lot, it probably just means that you've participated in a lot of trolling. The switch never happened in any of those discussions. But you don't remember that because our brains are always filling in missing information with our worldview.
Are you high? I've seen this tactic used in actual gun debates where both sides were debating the topic openly. It's very common. That said, so isn't the debate about whether car owners should be culpable if someone uses their car in committing a crime. People are way too fucking fond of calling everything they don't like trolling.
Yes, and regardless of position on either side, "troll" is a dodge used by both sides, just like the "you live in your mother's basement" which I have seen from both sides.
My point is that the original title/OP of the thread was asking if your car was stolen, is it your fault.
Of course not. But that is misleading knowing that car companies work on anti theft technology and GPS tracking. And like I said before, it is still illegal to allow a 5 year old to drive a car. It is still illegal to speed or drink and drive, and you cant drive a 4 lane wide monster truck on a public road.
And yes the "responsible" word is widely used in gun debates.
