Are you responsible?

[Yonadav]

Accusing people of bait and switch is a troll tactic. Trolls think they have seen bait and switch a lot because they count it as a hit every time they accuse someone of it, and never acknowledge their misses (misses are about 100%).  So if you've seen this tactic a lot, it probably just means that you've participated in a lot of trolling. The switch never happened in any of those discussions. But you don't remember that because our brains are always filling in missing information with our worldview.

Are you high? I've seen this tactic used in actual gun debates where both sides were debating the topic openly. It's very common. That said, so isn't the debate about whether car owners should be culpable if someone uses their car in committing a crime. People are way too fucking fond of calling everything they don't like trolling.

No, you just accused people of bait and switch even though no switch ever happened, and then went happily down memory lane and your brain glossed your worldview over the fact that no switch ever happened. People are constantly accusing others of talking about something other than they are talking about, and they are always absolutely certain that they are right, and they are routinely totally wrong, but in their rearview mirror they were right every single time, and then they say goofy things about having seen bait and switch in hundreds or thousands of discussions. And every one of those times was just a time when they accused someone of bait and switch, but no switch ever happened.

Now Brian admits that he is trolling this discussion intentionally, and he says that he intends to keep doing it, and he apparently intends to always force a thread to be a gun thread. My guess is that OLB's threads are targeted by him, since OLB is a gun enthusiast. The guy is a factual troll. And you've been in here encouraging him with your 'well maybe this is a bait and switch discussion so maybe it really is a gun thread' nonsense.  No, it's not a gun thread. It a thread that's being trolled by Brian with help from you there, moderator.