Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 30, 2026, 9:01 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Someone I know believes in the Devil but not in Hell
#21
RE: Someone I know believes in the Devil but not in Hell
(March 8, 2019 at 8:09 am)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: So this man I know believes the devil existsl. I did say the word devil a few times and I have a plush devil, because of this the guy thinks I will get "negative energy". I once told him I don't believe in demons and he gesticulated a circle, said that God is in the center and the devil somewhere in that circle as well. Then I lied that I believe him so that he'll leave me alone.
The same guy said he doesn't believe in Hell. He specifically stated there is no Hell, after you die, God won't judge you, you're  going to regret what you did wrong yourself.
What if someone doesn't regret their deeds? morality is subjective after all. There are evil people who don't regret hurting others. Are they gonna get away scot free? I do believe that some get scot free in real life (not in the afterlife, I don't believe in it), but I'm not claiming there is a great moral force.
I really don't get this guy. He claims the Earth is round and the people who wrote the Bible were wrong about it being flat, but God created men and evolution is wrong. He also doesn't believe that the atrocities made by God in the old Testament are literally real, but believes that there is a devil.
He already peeks and chooses what to believe, why believe in the Devil? It's not comforting. Why doesn't he just say the devil is a metaphor? Nobody else he knows is afraid of a plush devil, so why him?

Alright, I have happened upon such beliefs before. Not often, but once in a while.

My take on it is thus. 

The proponent was likely raised some flavour of traditional christian. That gives the embedded hell/satan/punishment aspect.

Said proponent was then exposed to the appeal of new-age hippy jesus, which is much more appealing than all the fire and brimstone.

These are conflicting beliefs, so to resolve the internal conflict simply invent a "nice" version that includes angry bible god and lovable hippy jesus at the same time.

It is quite possibly a contender for the most extreme form of bible cherry picking.

Pick any of the nastier parts of the bible and they will tell you that that particular part is a metaphor. They never say what it is a metaphor for, exactly.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Someone I know believes in the Devil but not in Hell - by Abaddon_ire - March 8, 2019 at 5:06 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Two verses on hell from the bible purplepurpose 7 2099 June 15, 2023 at 10:25 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Jerry Falwell Jnr "not a christian" and wanted to prove himself to not be like Snr Pat Mustard 18 5587 November 1, 2022 at 8:57 pm
Last Post: Paraselene
  The Devil just needs a character rewrite Nachos_of_Nurgle 16 4780 February 16, 2022 at 12:47 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  7th grader commits suicide after being told that he is going to Hell. Jehanne 12 4095 December 9, 2021 at 9:45 pm
Last Post: Ferrocyanide
  The concept of Hell T.J. 11 3190 November 12, 2021 at 9:49 pm
Last Post: brewer
  If you knew for certain that you were going to Hell zwanzig 32 8627 March 9, 2021 at 8:48 pm
Last Post: Ryantology
  GoodFight310 and the visions of Hell Ah_Hyug 0 1312 September 20, 2020 at 10:59 pm
Last Post: Ah_Hyug
  Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned? Dundee 71 19436 June 14, 2020 at 12:41 pm
Last Post: Paleophyte
  Who the Hell does God think he is?? Drich 13 4556 March 6, 2020 at 12:15 pm
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive? Fake Messiah 104 30400 February 9, 2020 at 2:46 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)